Any fans of Josh Holyfield and his ZestyRat brand?
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I liked his no bullshit attitude coming in but then quickly realized some of it is purposely curtailed to keep people in the skool bubble. Like even warren jeffs didn't keep his followers this aggressively blind for information. With my views of believing peptides should be easily accessible and widely available in an affordable manner. His entire buisness model is in complete contradiction to my views. Which is why i stopped following or watching.
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I joined this wanker's Skool group and it was a borderline cult. People were even afraid of listing Amazon listings for supplies unrelated to his bullshit peptide company that, by the way, is ridiculously expensive, because they may get banned. He is a gold-plated dildo in my eyes. For my money, don't trust anyone with face tattoos and you'll be fine. There are FAR better resources out there. He is totally inconsistent with his protocols too - he was for 5Amino at one point then later said it's basically useless without acknowledging his previous endorsement.
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I liked his no bullshit attitude coming in but then quickly realized some of it is purposely curtailed to keep people in the skool bubble. Like even warren jeffs didn't keep his followers this aggressively blind for information. With my views of believing peptides should be easily accessible and widely available in an affordable manner. His entire buisness model is in complete contradiction to my views. Which is why i stopped following or watching.
@quicksilver80 Exactly! He wants you in HIS world and nowhere else. His community is terrified of him and that's no community to be part of. Fuck that guy.
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Like I said before, I wasn’t recommending any other peptide vendor, I was trying to help out a woman who needed BAC water the next day. I didn’t even think of that as competing with him. I also don’t think it was him, but rather the new mod. This was in March.
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Like I said before, I wasn’t recommending any other peptide vendor, I was trying to help out a woman who needed BAC water the next day. I didn’t even think of that as competing with him. I also don’t think it was him, but rather the new mod. This was in March.
@jackiee I was in that group in March and he was banning people left and right for just that innocuous kind of information sharing. It's not the new mods. He's a gearhead on a power trip. People were apologizing for sharing needle links on Amazon which has NO impact on his garbage business at all.
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I just tried to save the girl from ordering crappy BAC water. I told her if she was ordering it from Amazon, to get Lambda
@jackiee You did the right thing. The purpose of a community is to help people out with knowledge, experience and grace. You're better off not being in that cult anymore. The last thing I did before I quit the group was call everyone out for being cowards and him for being a tyrant.
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Im a member of Josh Holyfield community. Been there for about a year. He has helped me out in 1 on 1 conversations on more than 1 occasion. I offered to pay him and he refused to let me. He appreciated the fact I followed his rules and respected his guidelines for the community. Bottom line is he started the community and I didnt. Just like I wouldnt come in here and argue with Randy, im gonna respect the man's wishes in his own house. Josh will tell you quickly if you want to be in there then respect his rules. Its just like voting for politicians or continuing to use bricks and minifigs. As a consumer you cadt your vote with your money. If you agree with what they do then support them, if you dont then dont. No hard feelings either way. Some people like him some dont. End of the day all we need to worry about is who we lay in bed with to go to sleep. Thats really all that matters. I can tell you though I have sprung some questions on him in conversations and he had the answer instantly. I dont believe he is reading AI generated answers. Once again the information he has given me several times would of cost me 10 trillion dollars with someone else and black card or however that works. Plus he started a supplement company. You can go get creatine that the only ingredient is creatine. He is a vet also which I respect. Im not trying to convince anyone, im just telling my experience with him. He has shot me straight the whole time and not charged me anything for it. I have also verified some of his info and it checked out everytime. Thats screams integrity to me in a world that has forgotten what that is mostly. The classroom portion he created is one hell of a guide for almost every peptide you can think of also and he maintains clinical trials data on there that you can look up if you want to. Very transparent. Someone called him a tattoo meat head and I think that comment doesn't have any relevance to anything. Very judgemental in my opinion and that has nothing to do with what he sells or says online. We better start learning how to get along with one another again before we all fall. Im just saying. You want to dispute him about something he says fhen thats fair game. He knew fhe score by putting himself in the public eye. Trying to clown on someone for their appearance is surprising to me. I figured that kind of behavior would of been left on the 5th grade recess yard, but 1st amendment says go for it. Im not mad at you and ill fight for your right to say it again. I hope it accomplished everything you wanted it to. I fully expect to have a comment said about my post. Won't bother me though, my concern is that hot little blonde I get to crawl in bed with about 7 hours from now. My suggestion is you should be worried about the same in your life before you lose her being consumed with how many tattoos someone on YouTube has. Not being rude or mean, just honest. Dont know what you got till its gone brother. Everyone enjoy the rest of yalls Sunday and if you get time go look up SLU-PP-915. Mind blowing the advancements we are making this year. Im in Texas and im on the hunt for a THC peptide. Damn joint is a felony now. What's up with that?
@stevencarter Quite frankly, if you came in here and disagreed with Randy he wouldn't outright ban you, and his environment here is far more welcoming and way less dictatorial. We're all adults in this space and don't need to be talked to like disobedient children because we all know how to be respectful and follow guidelines. Everyone there is scared of the dude because he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban. He absolutely reads from a prompt for every one of his videos, as is evident by watching his eyes move as he talks and his jump cuts for when he presumably screws up, or needs to find his place. I'm not saying there isn't valuable information there but the messenger, in his case, is an arsehole. I am happy for you if you gain something from that community, but I will not cower before some guy because his roid rage is guiding his thinking. Sorry for the rant, but I absolutely despise him and do not judge you in any way for using a resource that you find helpful.
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@bfuller next time I watch a dude full of tattoos and hgh will be never. Clinical trials is my thing not some meathead
@Stevepep There's waaaaaaayyy more than just HGH there
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What i do is try to turn people to the forums on instagram reels. He may block you. But the same people will see your comments in other algorithm connected videos. Information is half the battle
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Imma a fan. He seems to resonate with me, a fellow BJJ practitioner.
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@stevencarter No beef with any of that. My friend has also gotten good info from Josh on mechanic stack and questions about his GF’s autoimmune issues.
My beef is that when I joined, I wasn’t aware that talking about peptide vendors was forbidden (he has just launched ZestyRat) and apparently many of the other people who got banned also didn’t know why. You’re not on the hook to defend him. I am just venting.
FWIW, I do understand that rule #1 is don’t f*** with people’s money.
ResearchCat I hear you, and I can respect that. Its all good with me. I think once the conversation turns to someone's tattoos and name calling then we all lose. Randy has a very welcoming community here. You get kicked out off here you really fucked up. Dude sells excellent products also. I like the 3.5. I'm good with everyone though. Everyone has something to teach someone else. I even watch some of the videos with the nurse practitioner chick in Arizona. Knowledge is power but powerless if you got it and do not acknowledge it. Have a good one brother.
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@stevencarter Quite frankly, if you came in here and disagreed with Randy he wouldn't outright ban you, and his environment here is far more welcoming and way less dictatorial. We're all adults in this space and don't need to be talked to like disobedient children because we all know how to be respectful and follow guidelines. Everyone there is scared of the dude because he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban. He absolutely reads from a prompt for every one of his videos, as is evident by watching his eyes move as he talks and his jump cuts for when he presumably screws up, or needs to find his place. I'm not saying there isn't valuable information there but the messenger, in his case, is an arsehole. I am happy for you if you gain something from that community, but I will not cower before some guy because his roid rage is guiding his thinking. Sorry for the rant, but I absolutely despise him and do not judge you in any way for using a resource that you find helpful.
@Canineriot I hear you also. I wouldn't disrespect Randy. I wouldnt disrespect you. I have been in the shit against the biggest gang in the whole world. The fraternal order of police. You havent been kicked out of shit until you get kicked out of something by them. They are more criminal than criminals. After surviving that i dont sweat getting kicked out of anything else.
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I respect holyfield for being an entrepreneur and for the businesses he's built up. I am fascinated at his followers, though, who pay $40 per 10iu vial of HGH and he can't keep it in stock. He moves through thousands of vials per week at that price. Simply fascinating.
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Oh, talk all the shit you want, guys. It’s the internet.
I do have a real beef with Holyfield and others in that lane. Once you’ve built your physique with mast, tren, primo and the rest, your lectures about longevity start sounding a lot more like marketing copy.
A whole contingent of bodybuilders saw the money pouring into peptides, spun up platforms and started squeezing every dollar they could out of “longevity” and “wellness” while still living the bodybuilding-drug lifestyle. It’s bodybuilding culture repackaged for a softer and much larger audience.
If I wanted to put on 40 pounds of muscle, Holyfield might be exactly who I’d pay for coaching. If I wanted more energy, modest weight loss or help correcting actual deficiencies, I’d go to someone whose background and priorities matched those goals.
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Imma a fan. He seems to resonate with me, a fellow BJJ practitioner.
@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
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@jackiee I messaged them asking why I was banned, apologizing for whatever I said leading to the ban, and i never got a response. A friend who is also a member said he posted a long rant about it and that the member count went down by almost 1,000 so someone rage-banned a whole lot of people for talking about any other peptide vendors.
This was several months ago so it’s basically lost in the sands of time.
@ResearchCat I also messaged him because I had NO idea what caused me to be banned. No response.
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@stevencarter Quite frankly, if you came in here and disagreed with Randy he wouldn't outright ban you, and his environment here is far more welcoming and way less dictatorial. We're all adults in this space and don't need to be talked to like disobedient children because we all know how to be respectful and follow guidelines. Everyone there is scared of the dude because he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban. He absolutely reads from a prompt for every one of his videos, as is evident by watching his eyes move as he talks and his jump cuts for when he presumably screws up, or needs to find his place. I'm not saying there isn't valuable information there but the messenger, in his case, is an arsehole. I am happy for you if you gain something from that community, but I will not cower before some guy because his roid rage is guiding his thinking. Sorry for the rant, but I absolutely despise him and do not judge you in any way for using a resource that you find helpful.
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@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
Ever hear of Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar,Paulo Costa, or Francis Ngannou? All are super big dudes. Even non-pro but large muscle people like Jacko, big dude but pretty good at BJJ and I would consider him very good. Im a 63 y/o male and great shape, visible 6-pak (at least now I am after Tirzep and all my peppers, lol) and I regularly gas out against dudes in WAY WAY worse shape than me (Blues Purples and Browns) but their technique is far superior to mine, being a little guppy 2 stripe white belt.
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