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Any fans of Josh Holyfield and his ZestyRat brand?

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    What i do is try to turn people to the forums on instagram reels. He may block you. But the same people will see your comments in other algorithm connected videos. Information is half the battle

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      Imma a fan. He seems to resonate with me, a fellow BJJ practitioner.

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        @stevencarter No beef with any of that. My friend has also gotten good info from Josh on mechanic stack and questions about his GF’s autoimmune issues.

        My beef is that when I joined, I wasn’t aware that talking about peptide vendors was forbidden (he has just launched ZestyRat) and apparently many of the other people who got banned also didn’t know why. You’re not on the hook to defend him. I am just venting.

        FWIW, I do understand that rule #1 is don’t f*** with people’s money.

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        ResearchCat I hear you, and I can respect that. Its all good with me. I think once the conversation turns to someone's tattoos and name calling then we all lose. Randy has a very welcoming community here. You get kicked out off here you really fucked up. Dude sells excellent products also. I like the 3.5. I'm good with everyone though. Everyone has something to teach someone else. I even watch some of the videos with the nurse practitioner chick in Arizona. Knowledge is power but powerless if you got it and do not acknowledge it. Have a good one brother.

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          @stevencarter Quite frankly, if you came in here and disagreed with Randy he wouldn't outright ban you, and his environment here is far more welcoming and way less dictatorial. We're all adults in this space and don't need to be talked to like disobedient children because we all know how to be respectful and follow guidelines. Everyone there is scared of the dude because he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban. He absolutely reads from a prompt for every one of his videos, as is evident by watching his eyes move as he talks and his jump cuts for when he presumably screws up, or needs to find his place. I'm not saying there isn't valuable information there but the messenger, in his case, is an arsehole. I am happy for you if you gain something from that community, but I will not cower before some guy because his roid rage is guiding his thinking. Sorry for the rant, but I absolutely despise him and do not judge you in any way for using a resource that you find helpful.

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          @Canineriot I hear you also. I wouldn't disrespect Randy. I wouldnt disrespect you. I have been in the shit against the biggest gang in the whole world. The fraternal order of police. You havent been kicked out of shit until you get kicked out of something by them. They are more criminal than criminals. After surviving that i dont sweat getting kicked out of anything else.

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            I respect holyfield for being an entrepreneur and for the businesses he's built up. I am fascinated at his followers, though, who pay $40 per 10iu vial of HGH and he can't keep it in stock. He moves through thousands of vials per week at that price. Simply fascinating.

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              Oh, talk all the shit you want, guys. It’s the internet.

              I do have a real beef with Holyfield and others in that lane. Once you’ve built your physique with mast, tren, primo and the rest, your lectures about longevity start sounding a lot more like marketing copy.

              A whole contingent of bodybuilders saw the money pouring into peptides, spun up platforms and started squeezing every dollar they could out of “longevity” and “wellness” while still living the bodybuilding-drug lifestyle. It’s bodybuilding culture repackaged for a softer and much larger audience.

              If I wanted to put on 40 pounds of muscle, Holyfield might be exactly who I’d pay for coaching. If I wanted more energy, modest weight loss or help correcting actual deficiencies, I’d go to someone whose background and priorities matched those goals.

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                Imma a fan. He seems to resonate with me, a fellow BJJ practitioner.

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                @montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.

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                  @jackiee I messaged them asking why I was banned, apologizing for whatever I said leading to the ban, and i never got a response. A friend who is also a member said he posted a long rant about it and that the member count went down by almost 1,000 so someone rage-banned a whole lot of people for talking about any other peptide vendors.

                  This was several months ago so it’s basically lost in the sands of time.

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                  @ResearchCat I also messaged him because I had NO idea what caused me to be banned. No response.

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                    @stevencarter Quite frankly, if you came in here and disagreed with Randy he wouldn't outright ban you, and his environment here is far more welcoming and way less dictatorial. We're all adults in this space and don't need to be talked to like disobedient children because we all know how to be respectful and follow guidelines. Everyone there is scared of the dude because he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban. He absolutely reads from a prompt for every one of his videos, as is evident by watching his eyes move as he talks and his jump cuts for when he presumably screws up, or needs to find his place. I'm not saying there isn't valuable information there but the messenger, in his case, is an arsehole. I am happy for you if you gain something from that community, but I will not cower before some guy because his roid rage is guiding his thinking. Sorry for the rant, but I absolutely despise him and do not judge you in any way for using a resource that you find helpful.

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                    @Canineriot said:
                    "he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban."

                    Perfectly said!!

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                      @montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.

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                      @Canineriot said:

                      @montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.

                      Ever hear of Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar,Paulo Costa, or Francis Ngannou? All are super big dudes. Even non-pro but large muscle people like Jacko, big dude but pretty good at BJJ and I would consider him very good. Im a 63 y/o male and great shape, visible 6-pak (at least now I am after Tirzep and all my peppers, lol) and I regularly gas out against dudes in WAY WAY worse shape than me (Blues Purples and Browns) but their technique is far superior to mine, being a little guppy 2 stripe white belt. 🙂

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                        @Canineriot said:

                        @montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.

                        Ever hear of Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar,Paulo Costa, or Francis Ngannou? All are super big dudes. Even non-pro but large muscle people like Jacko, big dude but pretty good at BJJ and I would consider him very good. Im a 63 y/o male and great shape, visible 6-pak (at least now I am after Tirzep and all my peppers, lol) and I regularly gas out against dudes in WAY WAY worse shape than me (Blues Purples and Browns) but their technique is far superior to mine, being a little guppy 2 stripe white belt. 🙂

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                        @montemontemayor Yeah, fair enough, although a lot of those guys you mentioned started looking terrible by round two, especially Overheem post roids.

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                          Lesner and Ngannou often didn't get their cardio tested because they were removing heads from shoulders in the first round 🙂

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