Any fans of Josh Holyfield and his ZestyRat brand?
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Oh, talk all the shit you want, guys. It’s the internet.
I do have a real beef with Holyfield and others in that lane. Once you’ve built your physique with mast, tren, primo and the rest, your lectures about longevity start sounding a lot more like marketing copy.
A whole contingent of bodybuilders saw the money pouring into peptides, spun up platforms and started squeezing every dollar they could out of “longevity” and “wellness” while still living the bodybuilding-drug lifestyle. It’s bodybuilding culture repackaged for a softer and much larger audience.
If I wanted to put on 40 pounds of muscle, Holyfield might be exactly who I’d pay for coaching. If I wanted more energy, modest weight loss or help correcting actual deficiencies, I’d go to someone whose background and priorities matched those goals.
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Imma a fan. He seems to resonate with me, a fellow BJJ practitioner.
@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
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@jackiee I messaged them asking why I was banned, apologizing for whatever I said leading to the ban, and i never got a response. A friend who is also a member said he posted a long rant about it and that the member count went down by almost 1,000 so someone rage-banned a whole lot of people for talking about any other peptide vendors.
This was several months ago so it’s basically lost in the sands of time.
@ResearchCat I also messaged him because I had NO idea what caused me to be banned. No response.
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@stevencarter Quite frankly, if you came in here and disagreed with Randy he wouldn't outright ban you, and his environment here is far more welcoming and way less dictatorial. We're all adults in this space and don't need to be talked to like disobedient children because we all know how to be respectful and follow guidelines. Everyone there is scared of the dude because he has cultivated a presence that drips with arrogance and anger, which rewards any dissent with a ban. He absolutely reads from a prompt for every one of his videos, as is evident by watching his eyes move as he talks and his jump cuts for when he presumably screws up, or needs to find his place. I'm not saying there isn't valuable information there but the messenger, in his case, is an arsehole. I am happy for you if you gain something from that community, but I will not cower before some guy because his roid rage is guiding his thinking. Sorry for the rant, but I absolutely despise him and do not judge you in any way for using a resource that you find helpful.
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@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
Ever hear of Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar,Paulo Costa, or Francis Ngannou? All are super big dudes. Even non-pro but large muscle people like Jacko, big dude but pretty good at BJJ and I would consider him very good. Im a 63 y/o male and great shape, visible 6-pak (at least now I am after Tirzep and all my peppers, lol) and I regularly gas out against dudes in WAY WAY worse shape than me (Blues Purples and Browns) but their technique is far superior to mine, being a little guppy 2 stripe white belt.
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@montemontemayor Serious question, how is he any good at BJJ being that size? Wouldn't he gas out immediately? He doesn't seem to be a cardio guy. Most of the BJJ guys I know are lean and have sky-high cardio and they can roll for hours per session.
Ever hear of Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar,Paulo Costa, or Francis Ngannou? All are super big dudes. Even non-pro but large muscle people like Jacko, big dude but pretty good at BJJ and I would consider him very good. Im a 63 y/o male and great shape, visible 6-pak (at least now I am after Tirzep and all my peppers, lol) and I regularly gas out against dudes in WAY WAY worse shape than me (Blues Purples and Browns) but their technique is far superior to mine, being a little guppy 2 stripe white belt.
@montemontemayor Yeah, fair enough, although a lot of those guys you mentioned started looking terrible by round two, especially Overheem post roids.
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Lesner and Ngannou often didn't get their cardio tested because they were removing heads from shoulders in the first round
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@bfuller next time I watch a dude full of tattoos and hgh will be never. Clinical trials is my thing not some meathead
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I don't buy his products, but I do use his information. He has a good app for staying organized.
@Hallah-Haze said:
He has a good app for staying organized.His app is a web based thing that doesn't even act as a real app on an iphone. If you're iOS, download 'Peptidecalc.io'. It's $4.99 one time fee and does everythign you'd want for tracking, protocols, scheduling, etc.
I downloaded and tested like 8 of these apps. Most are subscription from $20-50/year and this was $5 one time fee and did everything I was looking for. Get it.
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The unofficial internet surveys like this right here is what family fund should start using instead of those fat girls at the mall with their clipboard. It would make those hour long youtube clips where Steve Harvey is all messed up at the answers so much funnier. Anyways im reading about a man getting ripped apart in here again, which everyone has their opinion and their right to express it. I wont say you dont. Just want everyone to remember that however you feel about Josh, he was a member of the military and contributed to the greater good in order for everyone to say what they are saying in here. I figured that would at least keep the personal attacks at bay. Its just hard to see such a one sided list of comments against someone who isnt even in here. I have popped off my self about Jay Campbell and Mr black card, so im talking about my.self as well. A lot of person attacks though. Fave tattoos or not and for whatever his reasons were he still put his life on the line for our freedom. I just think thats worth a level of respect for people that have no actual beef with him. If you and him have some personal whatever then thats different. But hating on a man because of his appearance when he didnt do anything to you I think is a low blow. Another thing ill say that I didnt realize was an actual complaint because I assumed it was understood why he did this, but Lilly just filed another 6 lawsuits against RUO sites and found ways to do it without using patent infringement as the basis. While everyone is hollering about COA's for proof a vial is what it claims to be, what do you think that verification does to the wrong set of eyes? it gives them a clear cut example of someone selling their compound and you paid for the evidence to get a lawsuit filed against you. I know most of you knew this, but I'm starting to see that some literally had no clue or even thought about it from that angle. Say what you want but they guy isn't the idiot meathead tattood up thug he is getting portrayed as. If you dont like not being able to see the COA then go to peptidecritic.com and check out the fine list of websites that give you the COA and probably a better deal with super fast shipping. Thats why I said before you can vote with your dollars. And before people might want to fire back at me just remember, im the kind of guy that would help you out too if it was stacked against you this bad. Im just not a fan of ganging up on someone. I like Josh and he has been helpful with me and a few things I needed help on. I like this community in here also a lot. We are already a subculture of freaky people for playing with these research products. I just think we should stick together as much as possible. Ill stick around for a little while because I know I have a few coming my way. I got a few hours before its low dose daily tadalafil time with the little blonde woman again so im ready for some good shit talking. Yall have a great rest of your Sunday.
JUSTICE FOR TATTLES GO BUY A SHIRT PLEASE AND SUPPORT THE LEGAL FEES TO THROW THE BOOK AT THEM PIECES OF SHIT THAT DID THIS, THOSE FUCKERS ARE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE I WOULD NOT STEP IN TO HELP WHEN THEY WERE GETTING JUMPED. THEY SHOULD BRING BACK PUBLIC CASTRATION FOR THEM PEOPLE.
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Damn it, I meant family fued
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Feud damn I suck
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Oh I forgot @randy im not familiar with the crossfit games comment you are talking about, if its not a private matter I am dying to hear it if it is referring to who i think you are referring to, if its not meant to be told i understand, I can picture that dude doing some shit like that though. Reminds me of cartman in the special olympics!!!!
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The unofficial internet surveys like this right here is what family fund should start using instead of those fat girls at the mall with their clipboard. It would make those hour long youtube clips where Steve Harvey is all messed up at the answers so much funnier. Anyways im reading about a man getting ripped apart in here again, which everyone has their opinion and their right to express it. I wont say you dont. Just want everyone to remember that however you feel about Josh, he was a member of the military and contributed to the greater good in order for everyone to say what they are saying in here. I figured that would at least keep the personal attacks at bay. Its just hard to see such a one sided list of comments against someone who isnt even in here. I have popped off my self about Jay Campbell and Mr black card, so im talking about my.self as well. A lot of person attacks though. Fave tattoos or not and for whatever his reasons were he still put his life on the line for our freedom. I just think thats worth a level of respect for people that have no actual beef with him. If you and him have some personal whatever then thats different. But hating on a man because of his appearance when he didnt do anything to you I think is a low blow. Another thing ill say that I didnt realize was an actual complaint because I assumed it was understood why he did this, but Lilly just filed another 6 lawsuits against RUO sites and found ways to do it without using patent infringement as the basis. While everyone is hollering about COA's for proof a vial is what it claims to be, what do you think that verification does to the wrong set of eyes? it gives them a clear cut example of someone selling their compound and you paid for the evidence to get a lawsuit filed against you. I know most of you knew this, but I'm starting to see that some literally had no clue or even thought about it from that angle. Say what you want but they guy isn't the idiot meathead tattood up thug he is getting portrayed as. If you dont like not being able to see the COA then go to peptidecritic.com and check out the fine list of websites that give you the COA and probably a better deal with super fast shipping. Thats why I said before you can vote with your dollars. And before people might want to fire back at me just remember, im the kind of guy that would help you out too if it was stacked against you this bad. Im just not a fan of ganging up on someone. I like Josh and he has been helpful with me and a few things I needed help on. I like this community in here also a lot. We are already a subculture of freaky people for playing with these research products. I just think we should stick together as much as possible. Ill stick around for a little while because I know I have a few coming my way. I got a few hours before its low dose daily tadalafil time with the little blonde woman again so im ready for some good shit talking. Yall have a great rest of your Sunday.
JUSTICE FOR TATTLES GO BUY A SHIRT PLEASE AND SUPPORT THE LEGAL FEES TO THROW THE BOOK AT THEM PIECES OF SHIT THAT DID THIS, THOSE FUCKERS ARE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE I WOULD NOT STEP IN TO HELP WHEN THEY WERE GETTING JUMPED. THEY SHOULD BRING BACK PUBLIC CASTRATION FOR THEM PEOPLE.
No one respects those who served more than me. But just because we served that doesn’t give us a free pass… In fact it raises the bar on how we are supposed to act and present ourselves to the public.
There also is no, just trust me bro, I served. Especially if we are selling something. The bar is raised for us, Inspect What You Expect. As far as tattoos go, who cares. I literally have a camo sleeve leg tattoo.
As far as COA’s go, inspect what you expect. And as far as Elli goes, COAs don’t make a difference. Their army of attorneys don’t care if you posted a COA or not, if it looks like you are selling Reta they will come after you it doesn’t matter of you post a COA or not. Attorneys look at it differently than most people. They just say, sue everyone and let them prove they are not in the group of offenders. I deal with it everyday.
I don’t hate the guy, I don’t care if he is all tattooed up (so am I). But he posts the stuff he sells if all tested but doesn’t post the test results, that is the problem, not his tattoos.
Just because we served, and I did for a long time, doesn’t give us a free pass. What it does do is hold us to a higher standard (at least for Marines l).
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@pep_researcher lmao
I work in finance, and we are starting to get the young women with tats all over their arms and some neck tattoos.
I try not to judge, but I am pretty old school and my standard is simple: If I sit you down in front of Japanese investors with $50 billion, are they going to take one look at you and get up and leave? Now, everybody is within their rights to post on TikTok about how racist, sexist, or intolerant that view might be, but we’re in the trust business more than anything else, and stodgy + performance still sells better than edgy and exciting in this space. (And you can still have tats that don’t show, which is fine, but i don’t think anyone under 30 has gotten that memo.)
Ironically, in my state(MA) they legalized tattoo shops about 15-20 years ago and there is one on every corner - next to the pot shops - and the fastest growing industry in MA is laser tattoo removal, which costs 10x what getting a tattoo costs.
(Sorry everyone, I just had my coffee.)
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I don’t particularly dislike him and i never mentioned his tattoos. I don’t have any tats and i have no desire for any. I’ve had my body cut up and marked enough thanks to cancer surgery.
Like i said earlier, I joined his Skool soon after finding peptides and I purchased several single vials from him. he was very helpful to me in the beginning and i am grateful for that. However, banning me with no warning, when i only told someone to buy lambda instead of some fly-by-night BAC water, when they NEEDED it the next day, was not cool. I’ve heard that is also not an isolated case.
But, I wonder if i had not been kicked out of it, would I have found this site and way more affordable ways to purchase these peps? I’m not sure. At the price he was charging, we certainly couldn’t have afforded the protocols that we have been researching, with great success.
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@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
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@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
I don’t mean you gave him a free pass, I mean in general…
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@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
@stevencarter you realize you are in a forum and people have opinions. I for one am not taking advice from a jacked up guy on steroids who self proclaims he knows more than anyone about peptides and just uses two. Who also publicly tells people fabricated nonsense and is an AI content creating machine. There are knowledgeable people out there he is not one of them. Feel free to pay him and follow him that’s your right. Feel free to defend his antics that’s also your right, it’s my right to say he is a jackass that’s my opinion because if it were up to him we would just take his word on everything because it’s gospel. Ya, no thanks and yes he also looks like a jackass also my opinion.
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@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
I actually give him credit for responding. You lost me with your lengthy meandering posts.
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