Any fans of Josh Holyfield and his ZestyRat brand?
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@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
I actually give him credit for responding. You lost me with your lengthy meandering posts.
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@commander I guess I missed something, what am I giving him a free pass for? I said repeatedly he is big boy and he knew fhe deal when he started creating content, i also never forced anyone to purchase anything from him, i dont care that you have an issue with him nkt showing COA's, but dont buy from him then, my concern was with attacking the man for his appearance, I just think thats a shallow form of arguing when it should be fact based, I know its reall easy for people to catch momentum with a common enemy or whatever, im just confused what the free pass comment is about, maybe I overlooked something, are we mad because he has face tattoos or because of COA's for peptides nobody twisted anybody arm to buy or we mad because he is a meathead? I think i said in the first comment that anyone woth personal beef with him thats not what im talking about, how would I know anyone had problems with someone if I wasnt there, my thing was the people jumping on personally attacking him because they arent happy with how he looks, i apologize if I came off any other way, for the higher standards thing I already hold military personnel in high standards and respect, I didnt serve so i cant comment on how yall treat each other but thank you as well, I enjoy the freedom yall provided for me, im not mad right now either im just curious what the free pass was about, the man has helped me out, he obviously didnt help most people here, I get it, but to talk trash on him because he didnt provide everyone with a certificate on his website that he paid for the certificate I think is uncalled for when the simple solution is dont buy his products, maybe eventually he figures it out and changes how he does business, maybe not either way like I said head to peptidecritic.com and the list there is more than adequate to remedy any ailments you may have, let me know if I have missed something and if so ill be the first to apologize and excuse myself from the conversation, yall have a great Monday, can you believe Iran is demanding that we publicly admit our defeat over there, and I really thought i would get a like for my family fund comment, that bums me out
I actually give him credit for responding. You lost me with your lengthy meandering posts.
@Mydogdaryl423 A lot of times, not saying that's what this is. It's people who have affiliate links all over social media. I do not think that's the case here just a guy who buys the BS from the self proclaimed expert of experts. That's his right if he likes him, so be it. IMO its just a waste of this incredible community's time to even discuss this topic.
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It looks like Josh just got hammered by the Youtube peptide censors. Which is too bad, because there was a good amount of info on his channel.
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I did like Josh's content for sure and his weekly Q&A's were pretty full of what I felt was good info. Its a resource to use. Like it? Great! Don't? There's plenty of info elsewhere, too.
I think his group can be a bit stiff, but I've gleaned good info from over there, had good interactions with other users, and am now more of a lurker when I want to search the posts. The web is a buffet. Take what you want, leave the rest.
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@Mydogdaryl423 A lot of times, not saying that's what this is. It's people who have affiliate links all over social media. I do not think that's the case here just a guy who buys the BS from the self proclaimed expert of experts. That's his right if he likes him, so be it. IMO its just a waste of this incredible community's time to even discuss this topic.
@Stevepep In my opinion, I think this topic is more than valid and provides valuable info to the people in this community in a couple ways.
First it allows for open discussion on reputable sources for information that is valid and not valid.
Also, it gives some insight on what to look for when considering sources for information and products themselves.
Don’t forget that if someone isn’t interested in the topic they have the ability to not read it and potentially waste their time. -
@Stevepep In my opinion, I think this topic is more than valid and provides valuable info to the people in this community in a couple ways.
First it allows for open discussion on reputable sources for information that is valid and not valid.
Also, it gives some insight on what to look for when considering sources for information and products themselves.
Don’t forget that if someone isn’t interested in the topic they have the ability to not read it and potentially waste their time.@HockeyRat Totally fair; that's why I said IMO. I don't find value in his AI content at all; others may.
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@commander Agreed, but for newbies, they don’t know what to ask or what to look for. My biggest gripe with all the channels getting banned is that the good info gets lost along with the bad. Putting aside all the stuff above - good and bad - Josh’s channel did provide a lot of information, and if you play it back at 2x, he sounds like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
Anyway, now he is sitting there somewhere all mad wondering why he got banned, just like the rest of us.
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@commander Agreed, but for newbies, they don’t know what to ask or what to look for. My biggest gripe with all the channels getting banned is that the good info gets lost along with the bad. Putting aside all the stuff above - good and bad - Josh’s channel did provide a lot of information, and if you play it back at 2x, he sounds like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
Anyway, now he is sitting there somewhere all mad wondering why he got banned, just like the rest of us.
@ResearchCat That was really my issue is its Newbies getting bad advice. Like no COA's etc. Once people get into it and gain experience, they aren't taking his advice and realize how bad much of it was.
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@commander Agreed, but for newbies, they don’t know what to ask or what to look for. My biggest gripe with all the channels getting banned is that the good info gets lost along with the bad. Putting aside all the stuff above - good and bad - Josh’s channel did provide a lot of information, and if you play it back at 2x, he sounds like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
Anyway, now he is sitting there somewhere all mad wondering why he got banned, just like the rest of us.
@ResearchCat I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who listens to peptide Vlogs at a faster speed!
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