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  • D damic

    Very interesting, I've been going down the lab rabbithole myself. My inflammation markers are high, off charts. I just sent them to my doctor and will have to see what they come back with:

    Currently taking
    Basic B Complex (Thorne)
    Magnesium Glycinate (Thorne)
    Some blood pressure medicine which I'm still trying to figure out (Olmesartan)

    Been having a pain under my right side rib cage trying to figure out what they hell is causing it. CT nothing, MRI nothing.

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    @damic said:

    Very interesting, I've been going down the lab rabbithole myself. My inflammation markers are high, off charts. I just sent them to my doctor and will have to see what they come back with:

    Currently taking
    Basic B Complex (Thorne)
    Magnesium Glycinate (Thorne)
    Some blood pressure medicine which I'm still trying to figure out (Olmesartan)

    Been having a pain under my right side rib cage trying to figure out what they hell is causing it. CT nothing, MRI nothing.

    😳 I’m having a very similar pain! Right of center, just under rib cage. Does it feel like the ab muscle, or something deeper? My anatomic knowledge is pretty limited, so I don’t know if there are any organs or whatnot in that area that could be acting up.

    At first I thought I had just overtrained my abs, but it is getting more pronounced. Seeing my (mostly useless) primary care physician this afternoon. We’ll see if she says anything helpful. Usually she just spouts how keto will kill me and that I need to be back on statins.

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      @damic said:

      Very interesting, I've been going down the lab rabbithole myself. My inflammation markers are high, off charts. I just sent them to my doctor and will have to see what they come back with:

      Currently taking
      Basic B Complex (Thorne)
      Magnesium Glycinate (Thorne)
      Some blood pressure medicine which I'm still trying to figure out (Olmesartan)

      Been having a pain under my right side rib cage trying to figure out what they hell is causing it. CT nothing, MRI nothing.

      😳 I’m having a very similar pain! Right of center, just under rib cage. Does it feel like the ab muscle, or something deeper? My anatomic knowledge is pretty limited, so I don’t know if there are any organs or whatnot in that area that could be acting up.

      At first I thought I had just overtrained my abs, but it is getting more pronounced. Seeing my (mostly useless) primary care physician this afternoon. We’ll see if she says anything helpful. Usually she just spouts how keto will kill me and that I need to be back on statins.

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      @SpaceGhost said:

      @damic said:

      Very interesting, I've been going down the lab rabbithole myself. My inflammation markers are high, off charts. I just sent them to my doctor and will have to see what they come back with:

      Currently taking
      Basic B Complex (Thorne)
      Magnesium Glycinate (Thorne)
      Some blood pressure medicine which I'm still trying to figure out (Olmesartan)

      Been having a pain under my right side rib cage trying to figure out what they hell is causing it. CT nothing, MRI nothing.

      😳 I’m having a very similar pain! Right of center, just under rib cage. Does it feel like the ab muscle, or something deeper? My anatomic knowledge is pretty limited, so I don’t know if there are any organs or whatnot in that area that could be acting up.

      At first I thought I had just overtrained my abs, but it is getting more pronounced. Seeing my (mostly useless) primary care physician this afternoon. We’ll see if she says anything helpful. Usually she just spouts how keto will kill me and that I need to be back on statins.

      Had the same pain in the same place. Mine was a gallbladder issue. Due to Glp-1s and rapid weight loss a known side effect is gall stones. After various inflammation events they removed mine a month ago. Obviously dont know if this is your issue but figured I would share my experience.

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      • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

        @SpaceGhost said:

        @damic said:

        Very interesting, I've been going down the lab rabbithole myself. My inflammation markers are high, off charts. I just sent them to my doctor and will have to see what they come back with:

        Currently taking
        Basic B Complex (Thorne)
        Magnesium Glycinate (Thorne)
        Some blood pressure medicine which I'm still trying to figure out (Olmesartan)

        Been having a pain under my right side rib cage trying to figure out what they hell is causing it. CT nothing, MRI nothing.

        😳 I’m having a very similar pain! Right of center, just under rib cage. Does it feel like the ab muscle, or something deeper? My anatomic knowledge is pretty limited, so I don’t know if there are any organs or whatnot in that area that could be acting up.

        At first I thought I had just overtrained my abs, but it is getting more pronounced. Seeing my (mostly useless) primary care physician this afternoon. We’ll see if she says anything helpful. Usually she just spouts how keto will kill me and that I need to be back on statins.

        Had the same pain in the same place. Mine was a gallbladder issue. Due to Glp-1s and rapid weight loss a known side effect is gall stones. After various inflammation events they removed mine a month ago. Obviously dont know if this is your issue but figured I would share my experience.

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        @Mydogdaryl423 My wife also had her gall bladder removed due to this kind of pain, but a scan showed inflammation. Unfortunately, it hasn’t completed eliminated the pain, but she had to do it because it was persistently inflamed and her spine surgeon wouldn’t operate while she possibly had a systemic infection.

        This was before she started using GLP-1’s, so we don’t know what the cause is or was.

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          Thanks! I looked up “gall bladder location” and that is precisely where I hurt. It does coincide with starting Reta. . .

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            Depending on when you had your scan, they should have seen something if there was a serious inflammation or other thing. I am not a doctor.

            My first labs after starting Tirz showed very high lipase (pancreas), but subsequent labs show it back to normal after reducing my dose and making other changes. No symptoms. We really have to listen to our bodies when researching. And get labs done.

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            • R ResearchCat

              Depending on when you had your scan, they should have seen something if there was a serious inflammation or other thing. I am not a doctor.

              My first labs after starting Tirz showed very high lipase (pancreas), but subsequent labs show it back to normal after reducing my dose and making other changes. No symptoms. We really have to listen to our bodies when researching. And get labs done.

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              @ResearchCat said:

              Depending on when you had your scan, they should have seen something if there was a serious inflammation or other thing. I am not a doctor.

              My first labs after starting Tirz showed very high lipase (pancreas), but subsequent labs show it back to normal after reducing my dose and making other changes. No symptoms. We really have to listen to our bodies when researching. And get labs done.

              My pancreatic function was also abnormal but this wasn't due to the high dose Tirz I was taking. It was due to the gallstones causing inflammation and/or obstruction near the pancreas. This leads to lab tests that show abnormal pancreatic function. Because the blockage usually affects the common bile duct as well, liver values (ALT, AST, ALP) and bilirubin often spike alongside pancreatic enzymes.

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              • P PeptideEd

                @researchcat I find different models have different personalities. Gemini is pretty liberal, and insightful about peptides. Claude is a bit more traditional, but very very detailed. The two of them together in my experience provide better results than one alone.

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                @PeptideEd said:

                @researchcat I find different models have different personalities. Gemini is pretty liberal, and insightful about peptides. Claude is a bit more traditional, but very very detailed. The two of them together in my experience provide better results than one alone.

                Tweaking your agent definition can erase a lot of the personality issues.

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                • R ResearchCat

                  What are you taking?
                  What is it for?
                  Do you think it works?
                  Best time of day?
                  Any issues taking with other Suppies?

                  I take a ton, and periodically add or remove based on perceived efficacy and/or research findings. I mostly take them all together in the morning, even though I know a few should be in the evening.

                  Fish Oil - heart health, gut lube
                  Optimen Multivitamin - probably 100% useless
                  Glucosamine - knees and joints; been taking for several years; anecdotally, this works for old knees.
                  Tongkat Ali - T support; not sure if it works, might.
                  Magnesium Glycinate - Good for sleep, stress, maybe heart health
                  Zinc - supports T production and immune function
                  GABA - brain health, mood improvement, reduced anxiety
                  Iron supplements - started recently due to low iron; probably doesn’t help, smells like beef bullion.
                  (Might have missed one or two)
                  Pterostilbene - longevity, stuff found in berries. Decent oral bioavailability.
                  Creatine - Just accept creatine in your life, brothers and sisters!
                  Mucil - cause fiber. (Sugar free)

                  Dead Soldiers
                  These are ones I tried and no longer take, typically because oral bioavailability is poor, sometimes because it just doesn’t work.

                  NAD+ - no practical oral bioavailability (See Randy’s signature line)
                  Berberine - supposedly amazing benefits but no oral bioavailability, don’t believe the lies, faux alternative to GLP-1
                  Turmeric - “You’re better off having a nice curry on Fridays.”
                  NMNH - might have some benefits, the blends often smell like rotten eggs, poor bioavailability
                  Bromelain - Pineapple extract, supposedly good for vision and floater dissolution. Took for 2 months, no perceived benefit

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                  @ResearchCat I take everything your taking x 3 probably 100 caps a day. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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                    Update: Saw my doc yesterday. Ultrasound scheduled for next week. Pain is getting worse and spreading. If this continues, I may head to the ER rather than wait for my scheduled ultrasound.

                    I titrated Reta from .5 or 1 to 2 in just two weeks because I didn’t experience any ISR, nausea, etc. (Newbie dumbass move!) I’m also researching Wolverine (2mg) and KPV (.5mg)

                    Should I throw the brakes on everything, just blame Reta, or let it ride?

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                    • SpaceGhostS SpaceGhost

                      Update: Saw my doc yesterday. Ultrasound scheduled for next week. Pain is getting worse and spreading. If this continues, I may head to the ER rather than wait for my scheduled ultrasound.

                      I titrated Reta from .5 or 1 to 2 in just two weeks because I didn’t experience any ISR, nausea, etc. (Newbie dumbass move!) I’m also researching Wolverine (2mg) and KPV (.5mg)

                      Should I throw the brakes on everything, just blame Reta, or let it ride?

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                      @SpaceGhost It wouldn't make it worse to pause it till you get your Ultrasound results, also to see if pausing makes it better.

                      attentiion is all you need

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                        @spaceghost, If the symptoms started after you began Reta, then perhaps stopping all research is a good idea until you get it resolved. If you are in a lot of pain and it is getting worse, then maybe going to the ER is a good idea.

                        I am not a doc and this may not be your issue, but I have been reading that ER’s are seeing a huge increase in visits due to GLP-1 ‘overdoses’.

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                          Went to the ER last night. They admitted me, saying gall stones and pancreatitis.

                          Disclosing peptides research to the doctor will be fun 🙄. Any suggestions?

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                            I am glad you are being treated. Pancreatitis is no joke.

                            The only thing I can say is that I would suggest you tell them because that will potentially explain the condition. Not disclosing will potentially mean lots of diagnostics to try to figure it out. I am not educated on these conditions, so take my advice with a grain of salt.

                            I hope treatment is easy and you recover quickly. 🙏

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                            • SpaceGhostS SpaceGhost

                              Went to the ER last night. They admitted me, saying gall stones and pancreatitis.

                              Disclosing peptides research to the doctor will be fun 🙄. Any suggestions?

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                              @SpaceGhost said:

                              Went to the ER last night. They admitted me, saying gall stones and pancreatitis.

                              Disclosing peptides research to the doctor will be fun 🙄. Any suggestions?

                              Knew it. Lol. Your description was all too familiar.

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