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Pinealon

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    ResearchRoots
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    Hi everyone—does anyone have experience or insights to share regarding pinealon research for cognitive enhancement and potential protective effects in dementia‑prone rats?

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      I am also interested in this one. Years of cold turkey starting and stopping of benzos fried my rat's gaba/glutamate system, and they have had tinnitis (and more) for the past two years. Looking at this one and a few others to see if they might impact tinnitis in my rat.

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        I've resarched Pinealon twice. I cannot report on your concerns I only feel like i did myself some good. sorry i could not be of more help

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          Starting my first tonight, DSIP and Epitalon have done nothing for me.

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            Okay I'll tell you guys my experience. I'm the kind of rat that needs a milligram of dsip, trazodone or something heavier to actually go to sleep and stay asleep. I blame over a decade of traveling to developing countries for my other job and a love for cheese.

            I've done many cycles of epithalon And it really didn't do much for me. Fast forward to pinealon and that changed everything. I went from having restless nights to having dreams for the first time in years. My sleep tracking showed significant improvements as well. I started at 200 micrograms but when I cranked it to 2 mg a night that's when it got really good. Anytime I run it it's 2 mg a night for for 30 days. But I've seen some have success with 400 micrograms a night for 30 days.

            I haven't touched it in a while. I'm still sleeping well. I'll touch it again late August I'm sure
            ... I might have five kits of 20 mg bottles in the freezer.

            "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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              How long before bedtime did you pin it? I sleep like a log, but my husband doesn't. He falls asleep, he just doesn't stay asleep.

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                I'm really curious about this one, I'm starting to see it show up on quite a few vendor sites. Any recommendations?

                “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                  For Pinealon, it's small enough to be used intranasally or orally. There are few producers selling it as capsules and nasal/oral sprays.

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                    Okay I'll tell you guys my experience. I'm the kind of rat that needs a milligram of dsip, trazodone or something heavier to actually go to sleep and stay asleep. I blame over a decade of traveling to developing countries for my other job and a love for cheese.

                    I've done many cycles of epithalon And it really didn't do much for me. Fast forward to pinealon and that changed everything. I went from having restless nights to having dreams for the first time in years. My sleep tracking showed significant improvements as well. I started at 200 micrograms but when I cranked it to 2 mg a night that's when it got really good. Anytime I run it it's 2 mg a night for for 30 days. But I've seen some have success with 400 micrograms a night for 30 days.

                    I haven't touched it in a while. I'm still sleeping well. I'll touch it again late August I'm sure
                    ... I might have five kits of 20 mg bottles in the freezer.

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                    @Randy said in Pinealon:

                    ... I might have five kits of 20 mg bottles in the freezer.

                    OMG, 5 kits, are you a prepper? Want to offload a few vials? 😆

                    I have some Pinealon arriving this week and am looking forward to researching. I've poked my subject with a cycle of Epithalon with no reported effects or side-effects. And somewhere I made a note about running a cycle of Testagen, Epithalon and Pinealon; saving that experiment for a October.

                    Are most taking Pinealon at night?

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                      For Pinealon, it's small enough to be used intranasally or orally. There are few producers selling it as capsules and nasal/oral sprays.

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                      @vpeptides Who is selling it as a nasal spray?

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                      • RandyR Randy

                        Okay I'll tell you guys my experience. I'm the kind of rat that needs a milligram of dsip, trazodone or something heavier to actually go to sleep and stay asleep. I blame over a decade of traveling to developing countries for my other job and a love for cheese.

                        I've done many cycles of epithalon And it really didn't do much for me. Fast forward to pinealon and that changed everything. I went from having restless nights to having dreams for the first time in years. My sleep tracking showed significant improvements as well. I started at 200 micrograms but when I cranked it to 2 mg a night that's when it got really good. Anytime I run it it's 2 mg a night for for 30 days. But I've seen some have success with 400 micrograms a night for 30 days.

                        I haven't touched it in a while. I'm still sleeping well. I'll touch it again late August I'm sure
                        ... I might have five kits of 20 mg bottles in the freezer.

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                        @Randy Thanks for sharing that…I’ve tried all those except Pinealon for my bunny who needs trazadone to sleep. Everything seems to stimulate her but I will try it soon.

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                          I used to live on traz. No more traz for me!

                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                            stevencarter
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                            I am actually starting pinealon by itself tonight. I have ran it with pe22-28/semax/selank blend. Didn't notice too much with that blend. Pinealon by itself is supposed to be badass though. Epitalon helped me with my sleep timing slightly. Not a major shift, but it got me back into an 11 to 7 baseline give or take. Problem is I start work at 6.

                            Really like this site and im about to order a couple injector pens to give those a try. Also thank you for the finnrick testing suggestion. I wish they would test KPV for free but ill send them a vial of reta and let them check it out. No doubt that Nexaph will shine.

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                              @vpeptides Who is selling it as a nasal spray?

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                              @gym.rat said in Pinealon:

                              @vpeptides Who is selling it as a nasal spray?

                              @gym.rat Solution peptides sells it. They aren't on the vendor list here, but I remember seeing it on their site along with several others. Molecular solutions, another vendor not on this list, has quite a few sprays as well. Basic testing.

                              “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                                My rat is on day 5 at 1mg/day. using this schedule for 15 days
                                DAYS DAILY DOSE UNITS (PER INJECTION) (ML)
                                Days 1-5 1.0 mg (1,000 mcg) 15 units (0.15 ml)
                                Days 6-14 1.5 mg (1,500 mcg) 22.5 units (0.225 mL)
                                Days 15-20 2.0 mg (2,000 mcg) 30 units (0.30 mL)
                                Frequency: Inject once daily subcutaneously, preferably in the morning or early afternoon. Standard cycles
                                are 10-20 days, with the option to extend to 28 days if desired[5][6]. Repeat cycles can be administered
                                every 2-3 months as needed.

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                                • gym.ratG gym.rat

                                  @vpeptides Who is selling it as a nasal spray?

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                                  @gym.rat you can do a nasal spray yourself from any compound. Get a nasal spray kit like the one limitlesslifenootropics sells https://limitlesslifenootropics.com/product/sprayer/

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                                    @gym.rat you can do a nasal spray yourself from any compound. Get a nasal spray kit like the one limitlesslifenootropics sells https://limitlesslifenootropics.com/product/sprayer/

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                                    @vpeptides Thank you for this. Just ordered. Do I need to sterilize the sprayer in boiling water or does it come ready?

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                                    • gym.ratG gym.rat

                                      @vpeptides Thank you for this. Just ordered. Do I need to sterilize the sprayer in boiling water or does it come ready?

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                                      vpeptides
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                                      @gym.rat they have it specifically for this purpose, so I don't think you need to sterilize. Your nostrils are not exactly sterile either. Also, they usually send the instructions with it.

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                                        Is Pinealon better to take a night??

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                                          https://peptidecritic.com/store/amber-glass-nasal-spray-bottles-10-ml-10-units-per-spray

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