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    diegoc
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    Hey folks 👋

    Well i done Penealon 2 different ways and i will give you my opinion.

    Penealon is not like a peptide you feel or get a reaction like a flushing sensation, it helps reset your circadian rhythm.

    Epitalon or disp at night and Penealon at 7am.

    Go outside and get 10m of sunlight or a 10k lux light.

    Once you anchor your circadian rhythm, then your sleep will get better.

    The time you go to sleep helps anchor that but most importantly is the wake up time, yeah sounds weird but ppl didn’t have alarm clocks in the Roman days, you went to sleep and woke up at the same time everyday.

    So consistency is your best friend here.

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        diegoc
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        7am sun window thru the trees

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          pep_researcher
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          Pinealon research timing seems to have diverging opinion.

          Some say morning, some say night, LLM app says either time depending on what research benefits one wants to explore.

          What's the truth?

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            diegoc
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            I would refrain to your name on this one….

            Research and Test whats best for you

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              stevencarter
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              My chupacabra actually started pinealon this morning, I have always heard to run pinealon in the morning at 400mcg per day, and run epitalon at night at 400mcg 30 to 60 minutes before bed, the chupacabra has never run both at the same time, but I know people that have done that with their research subjects and they said it actually made it harder for their research participants to sleep, thats just word of mouth though, take it how you want to. Just to be clear I agree with Randy, none of this stuff works unless it is administered through an injection, ill go a step further also, you can buy 2 in 1 shampoo/conditioner but the facts say its better use individually, that standard reigns true throughout this so called reality, stop being lazy, you arent getting a deal on blends, timing is off, get hemorrhoid cream to mitigate the pain of injections

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                LOL @stevencarter interesting analogy but what you are saying makes a lot of sense

                “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                  Starting my first tonight, DSIP and Epitalon have done nothing for me.

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                  mattclayton
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                  @Stan-Douglas I haven't researched pinealon, but I have been on DSIP for the last 2 weeks with a peptide pen compliments of Jeff and Randy. At first I noticed nothing, however the past week and a half after the first few days has been some of the best sleep of my life. I am a horrendous sleeper and have tried basically everything over the counter and prescription and was starting to reach out to "the fringes" before I started this. I still take my sleep medication but now it keeps me asleep more than 3 to 4 hours and I have had a deeper more restful sleep. Anyway, for what that's worth to someone out there.
                  Started on two units via a pen needle x 3 days about an hour before I wanted to start winding down. Currently on three units qhs and holding strong.

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                    Shaqdiesel
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                    @ResearchRoots
                    For some reason I am unable to directly reply to your above research you are doing with Pinealon. Based on your post I think you should be through the cycle by now. How did it go? Was it effective? Still working? I just ordered 7 vials from Southern Aminos today. I am hoping to start a cycle in the next few weeks to help me with sleep and brain health.

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                      @gym.rat everychem.com

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                        tncar1
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                        @gym.rat I made my own nasal spray. I use brown glass bottles for daytime, blue for night. I have dsip, semax/selank, and pinealon in nasal sprays.

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                          Randy
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                          Ive tried nasal for both. Pinning is the only thing that got me anywhere.

                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                          • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                            Starting my first tonight, DSIP and Epitalon have done nothing for me.

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                            WowwyZowwy
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                            @Stan-Douglas How did your Pinealon do for you?

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                              vpeptides
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                              Why did you use saline? I read the distilled water is recommended. Saline is thought to be heavy and damaging to peptides.

                              attentiion is all you need

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                                @Stan-Douglas How did your Pinealon do for you?

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                                Stan Douglas
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                                @WowwyZowwy
                                No help at all.
                                For me, doesn't mean it won't work for you.
                                I'm just broken sleep cycle-wise 😖

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                                  @gym.rat everychem.com

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                                  yvonnehien-moore
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                                  @zacharykortz oh my checked out the link and i dont even know what some of these things are but i did see a couple of things i liked --nasal sprays thanks now i have homework!

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                                  • RandyR Randy

                                    Okay I'll tell you guys my experience. I'm the kind of rat that needs a milligram of dsip, trazodone or something heavier to actually go to sleep and stay asleep. I blame over a decade of traveling to developing countries for my other job and a love for cheese.

                                    I've done many cycles of epithalon And it really didn't do much for me. Fast forward to pinealon and that changed everything. I went from having restless nights to having dreams for the first time in years. My sleep tracking showed significant improvements as well. I started at 200 micrograms but when I cranked it to 2 mg a night that's when it got really good. Anytime I run it it's 2 mg a night for for 30 days. But I've seen some have success with 400 micrograms a night for 30 days.

                                    I haven't touched it in a while. I'm still sleeping well. I'll touch it again late August I'm sure
                                    ... I might have five kits of 20 mg bottles in the freezer.

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                                    @Randy Sounds similar to my experience, didnt get much from Epitalon solo at 1 mg a night, but next stack I did 2 mg Pinealon in the morning with 1 mg Epitalon at night and my restless nights from 3-8 am and lower REM sleep improved dramatically, super vivid dreams and doubled my REM and sleep scores improved/

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                                      I am going to get some Pinealon for my hubby’s rat. His goal is to sleep half as good as I do naturally, lol. I already have some DSIP and Epitalon, but we haven’t researched either yet.

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                                        Hey seriously, you guys are really having a hard time sleeping?

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                                        • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

                                          Hey seriously, you guys are really having a hard time sleeping?

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                                          @EXTROPIAN said:

                                          Hey seriously, you guys are really having a hard time sleeping?

                                          I don’t. I sleep like it is my job! My hubby wakes up often.

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