Pinealon
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LOL @stevencarter interesting analogy but what you are saying makes a lot of sense
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Starting my first tonight, DSIP and Epitalon have done nothing for me.
@Stan-Douglas I haven't researched pinealon, but I have been on DSIP for the last 2 weeks with a peptide pen compliments of Jeff and Randy. At first I noticed nothing, however the past week and a half after the first few days has been some of the best sleep of my life. I am a horrendous sleeper and have tried basically everything over the counter and prescription and was starting to reach out to "the fringes" before I started this. I still take my sleep medication but now it keeps me asleep more than 3 to 4 hours and I have had a deeper more restful sleep. Anyway, for what that's worth to someone out there.
Started on two units via a pen needle x 3 days about an hour before I wanted to start winding down. Currently on three units qhs and holding strong. -
@ResearchRoots
For some reason I am unable to directly reply to your above research you are doing with Pinealon. Based on your post I think you should be through the cycle by now. How did it go? Was it effective? Still working? I just ordered 7 vials from Southern Aminos today. I am hoping to start a cycle in the next few weeks to help me with sleep and brain health. -
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Starting my first tonight, DSIP and Epitalon have done nothing for me.
@Stan-Douglas How did your Pinealon do for you?
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@Stan-Douglas How did your Pinealon do for you?
@WowwyZowwy
No help at all.
For me, doesn't mean it won't work for you.
I'm just broken sleep cycle-wise
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@gym.rat everychem.com
@zacharykortz oh my checked out the link and i dont even know what some of these things are but i did see a couple of things i liked --nasal sprays thanks now i have homework!
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Okay I'll tell you guys my experience. I'm the kind of rat that needs a milligram of dsip, trazodone or something heavier to actually go to sleep and stay asleep. I blame over a decade of traveling to developing countries for my other job and a love for cheese.
I've done many cycles of epithalon And it really didn't do much for me. Fast forward to pinealon and that changed everything. I went from having restless nights to having dreams for the first time in years. My sleep tracking showed significant improvements as well. I started at 200 micrograms but when I cranked it to 2 mg a night that's when it got really good. Anytime I run it it's 2 mg a night for for 30 days. But I've seen some have success with 400 micrograms a night for 30 days.
I haven't touched it in a while. I'm still sleeping well. I'll touch it again late August I'm sure
... I might have five kits of 20 mg bottles in the freezer.@Randy Sounds similar to my experience, didnt get much from Epitalon solo at 1 mg a night, but next stack I did 2 mg Pinealon in the morning with 1 mg Epitalon at night and my restless nights from 3-8 am and lower REM sleep improved dramatically, super vivid dreams and doubled my REM and sleep scores improved/
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Hey seriously, you guys are really having a hard time sleeping?
I don’t. I sleep like it is my job! My hubby wakes up often.
@jackiee What I also do is note next day agendas in a note pad. So I don't have to hold on and can let go when I sleep. I know we are all stressed out and concerned with our work, home, our country and world events. But we definitely need our rest to repair and reboot even with the right pep.
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@jackiee What I also do is note next day agendas in a note pad. So I don't have to hold on and can let go when I sleep. I know we are all stressed out and concerned with our work, home, our country and world events. But we definitely need our rest to repair and reboot even with the right pep.
@jackiee What I also do is note next day agendas in a note pad. So I don't have to hold on and can let go when I sleep. I know we are all stressed out and concerned with our work, home, our country and world events. But we definitely need our rest to repair and reboot even with the right pep.
I don’t think that he is stressed, really. He is just a very light sleeper, whereas I am dead to the world when my head hits the pillow.
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@EXTROPIAN For me, it's about Rem and Deep after Pinealon I am in Rem for at least half of the time. I was barely getting an hour of REM before and minutes of deep. I slept, but it wasn't repair and reboot sleep. I started slow and quickly ramped to 2 mg, and that's where I saw the difference. DSIP has done nothing for me in terms of sleep scores. It may be helping me get to sleep sooner I am not sure.
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@jackiee What I also do is note next day agendas in a note pad. So I don't have to hold on and can let go when I sleep. I know we are all stressed out and concerned with our work, home, our country and world events. But we definitely need our rest to repair and reboot even with the right pep.
I don’t think that he is stressed, really. He is just a very light sleeper, whereas I am dead to the world when my head hits the pillow.
@jackiee I as well. Im active and wide awake as longest I am on my feet. As soon as I settle and get confortable I am out. I do miss those lazy weekends were you could sleep all day without a worry. The only thing I taken was melatonin a few times, more out of curiosity. Having to sleep a few hours and feel you slept all night was an experience.
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