Tesa vs CJC?

[jborja]

Hoping to get assistant for my research subject. If I watch Josh’s video he’s leaving towards CJC for price and similar effect?

[ResearchCat]

I would search this forum; there are a few discussions on this topic, including this specific video.

I have researched CJC/Ipa and will be researching tesa in May, so will provide results in a month or two

[Commander]

I tried both. CJC gives you a flush feeling, Tesa doesn’t. Or at least that is how it was for me and my wife.
As fsr as results go, no real way to know. As far as price, you can find Tesa for the same price as CJC, so I don’t believe that is a real factor to consider.

[gym.rat]

Just applied first dose last night to my research hamster and the flushing was barely noticeable. This was approx 8 units which is roughly 200mcg dose of cjc / ipa in a blend. Sadly the hamster did not sleep well and woke up with a decent headache. Also had an ear ringing that lasted about 10 minutes (i'm guessing thsi is tinnitus?). So obvious side effects. Will dose down. Usually the hamster is not effected by anything, so a bit surprising.

[gym.rat]

3 weeks in now and every shot is the same. Very very minor stinging several minutes after and a little welt. I don't notice any positive effects as of now, but I've been told by a doctor that it takes at least 4 weeks and anything under is a waste. Run this to 8 - 12 weeks. I personally plan to go 8. My sleep has been screwed up, but I'm not sure its this or the Reta or maybe both. Everyone talks about great sleep on this, but my experience is the straight up opposite. I'm dosing in the morning due to longer fasting requirements of the Reta. Normally you would dose at night 2 -3 afters after last food, but Reta ruins that window and thus I have to do this in the AM where my fasting window is now anywhere from 10 - 15 hours.

[Commander]

I think you need to do a minimum of 16 weeks but 26 is best… just my 2 cents, that means nothing.

[jborja]

I am on 8 weeks of Tesa, and definitely feeling the much better sleep… my dexa has been positive with visceral fat numbers down . I am waiting on my next IGF-1 test in the next month after baselines plus Z score (this would be 12 weeks since starting the protocol) along with fasting labs and full metabolic panel. I am also on tirz, but the medical literature says that tesa can also increase insulin, glucose and A1C so I want it to be balanced…

[ResearchCat]

@commander did you see Josh’s latest video making the case that you don’t really need to cycle Tesa or ipa because the receptors don’t desensitize?

Also saying pinning in the AM might be better because you need closer to 3+ hours fasting for insulin to drop.

I don’t take everything he says as gospel but I do like it when people say things that align with my preferences.

[judgetoo]

I don't have experience with CJC but did a recent cycle of 16 weeks of Tesa 1mg at night before bed Sunday through Thursday. Took Friday and Saturday off. The injection stung a little but that went away within 30 minutes or so. Wasn’t bad - at least not like GHK-Cu.

I was given some great advice before I started Tesa which I will pass along. If you can, try to do a DXA scan. I bought a 3-scan package for $200 from a scanning center where I live. I did the first scan this year in January and a follow up scan in late April. My visceral fat dropped 37%.

Full disclosure: I am a 60 year old male. Since January, I have been taking testosterone and researching Reta, GHK-Cu, Semax/Selank and recently added NAD+ in late April. I workout 4 to 5 days per week mixing strength and cardio.

My doctor recommended CJC/Ipa but I wanted to complete my cycle of Tesa first. TBH, I bought a bunch from Nexaph so I’ll probably finish that before I consider CJC/Ipa.

If you have any other questions about Tesa, I will try to answer them from my experience, but I am not a doctor and none of this is medical advice. I’m just an old dude that likes taking drugs.