Eloralintide
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@Stevepep I'm with you, at this point I don't want to chase deals either, just safe and real peps.
@BeeKind I have learned that simple is better; all the grey buying leads to too much risk. I don't need pubes in my vial. I took a flyer on groupbuykits on a small order just to check it out. I am starting to regret it, so I will just let it play out. I have my comfort zone with a few retailers, and that's it for me for now. The stuff works, I feel safe, and they have great customer service. So why mess around IMO. On top of that, I am not in a position to vet a manufacturer. I will leave that up to retailers like Nexaph, who do this for a living. Just my opinion after doing this for a bit. I know I am paying more, but safe is good.
Put in the wrong one https://testing.nexaph.com/NXP-ATP3005072026-01. All this SS-31 talk
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The problem with Groupbuykits is that you don't know who the suppliers are or what the actual prices are. You're taking their word on pricing, and you still have the possibility of a shipment not getting delivered. To be fair I haven't heard of this happening, but the risk is still there. Additionally, your waiting 4-5 weeks for delivery and the testing could be handled in a more in a more logical manner. They have enough pricing built into their business model that it should be more straightforward and worry free. I am on my third order from them, and so far, I think that people are generally better off just buying from Nexaph. You might save a little with Groupbuykits, but it's not enough to make it worthwhile.
That being said, I have a wholesale account with Nexaph and their prices per vial based on the high minimum quantity required, is not that great. I like Nexaph, but I put together an order that totaled $44,000. I contacted them and said the pricing didn't work for my project expecting they would offer a further discount of some kind and they wouldn't budge. I offered to make the order 50K or more and still no additional discounts?
The vendors in the peptide world seem to have all the angles figured out. My dilemma is, I do not want to send a large amount of money to China because of the risk involved. It seems like there are a bunch of us with the same problem.
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@Randy Too damn late unfortunately, small order though, so small it's not worth testing on my own unless I planned on ordering again from them. I keep saying stay in my lane and pay a little more, but Grey keeps sucking me back in. Hopefully, I have finally learned. At least I can dispute the charge since it's a CC. Can't do that with my honey, Lisa, on Telegram after my Coinbase transfer. So there's that.
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The problem with Groupbuykits is that you don't know who the suppliers are or what the actual prices are. You're taking their word on pricing, and you still have the possibility of a shipment not getting delivered. To be fair I haven't heard of this happening, but the risk is still there. Additionally, your waiting 4-5 weeks for delivery and the testing could be handled in a more in a more logical manner. They have enough pricing built into their business model that it should be more straightforward and worry free. I am on my third order from them, and so far, I think that people are generally better off just buying from Nexaph. You might save a little with Groupbuykits, but it's not enough to make it worthwhile.
That being said, I have a wholesale account with Nexaph and their prices per vial based on the high minimum quantity required, is not that great. I like Nexaph, but I put together an order that totaled $44,000. I contacted them and said the pricing didn't work for my project expecting they would offer a further discount of some kind and they wouldn't budge. I offered to make the order 50K or more and still no additional discounts?
The vendors in the peptide world seem to have all the angles figured out. My dilemma is, I do not want to send a large amount of money to China because of the risk involved. It seems like there are a bunch of us with the same problem.
Does anyone know of any possible solutions or have suggestions.@CapmanCrunch Not sure if this helps, but I would go to China and meet the people who run the factory. I have done a bunch of manufacturing in China and the face to face is a game changer. These types of factories are all typically located in the same province so visit several. They will sponsor you if you don't have a Visa. With that type of money at stake, it's worth the trip.
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@CapmanCrunch Not sure if this helps, but I would go to China and meet the people who run the factory. I have done a bunch of manufacturing in China and the face to face is a game changer. These types of factories are all typically located in the same province so visit several. They will sponsor you if you don't have a Visa. With that type of money at stake, it's worth the trip.
@Stevepep
Thank you,
In my current business, I bought shipping containers full of product in from China (not peptides) and the prices were great. I had a partner that was originally from there and knew people and got it set up. I did 3 shipments and then we started to run into quality issues.
I wouldn't anticipate that to be a problem with peptides though.
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I have a kit coming, hoping I don’t regret it
. Cag I added is giving me flashbacks of semaglutide days 
@WisGal64
I haven't had problems with the product or quality so far. You should be fine. I think they may have more profit built into their formula than advertised, but I don't know that to be a fact. -
@capmancrunch good to see this.
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the half life according to @snake-pepskin charts is a monster! Ouch!
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Uther I believe is a finisher/packager, as opposed to a manufacturer, but probably as close as we'll get to buying direct. My understanding is the difficulty in producing it is the shape of this molecule is specific to the targeted receptor. Even if the chemical properties are be met, if the key is not designed right, it won't fit the lock it's meant for. So, done wrong it may not be effective or do something else all together. Given that, I'm in no rush on this one. Question I have is how does Janoshik or any lab know how to test for something that's not even close to being released? Reta included? Shared database of known signatures?
Question I have is how does Janoshik or any lab know how to test for something that's not even close to being released?
I have a copy of the Jano cert where they accidentally copied the structure of it onto the cert. How they got it I dont know, but they have it. I've also seen what is apparently a photo on socials of a sample bag of some from a trial being said to be going to the labs as reference sample. Wish i screenshotted that post.
I've got my kit from erp/jkl/wbs already, erp's telegram mod is running a group test where they are having freedom diagnostics test it, so we're waiting for the results there.
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I was chatting with the lab guys over on K-hole about 3 weeks ago, asking if they had the standard which to test with, and most did. Followed up with, "has anyone actually tested any yet, successfully". Dustin with Vanguard got back with me that Monday, and said they had tested 7 examples. 2 were good, the other 5 were zero, or wrong peptide. So, there's only two producing it, Uther and QWB at the moment,.and considering it cost twice Reta, and with the demand, it's a scammers market.
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@newenough this is encouraging to see. I have some on the way, Thankfully the original vendor that was going to be used was cancelled and the GBO went with Uth. So I remain hopeful the additional testing is positive
“Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”
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@newenough this is encouraging to see. I have some on the way, Thankfully the original vendor that was going to be used was cancelled and the GBO went with Uth. So I remain hopeful the additional testing is positive
@WisGal64 @newenough I need some kind of guide or flowchart for the first group/direct buy without customs crossing barrier. Do we have here on PC? I read the STG guide but that's very generic.
But then again I'm lazy, Nexa is adding more testing, so it's an easy button. lol
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