Eloralintide
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@CapmanCrunch Not sure if this helps, but I would go to China and meet the people who run the factory. I have done a bunch of manufacturing in China and the face to face is a game changer. These types of factories are all typically located in the same province so visit several. They will sponsor you if you don't have a Visa. With that type of money at stake, it's worth the trip.
@Stevepep
Thank you,
In my current business, I bought shipping containers full of product in from China (not peptides) and the prices were great. I had a partner that was originally from there and knew people and got it set up. I did 3 shipments and then we started to run into quality issues.
I wouldn't anticipate that to be a problem with peptides though.
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I have a kit coming, hoping I don’t regret it
. Cag I added is giving me flashbacks of semaglutide days 
@WisGal64
I haven't had problems with the product or quality so far. You should be fine. I think they may have more profit built into their formula than advertised, but I don't know that to be a fact. -
@capmancrunch good to see this.
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the half life according to @snake-pepskin charts is a monster! Ouch!
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Uther I believe is a finisher/packager, as opposed to a manufacturer, but probably as close as we'll get to buying direct. My understanding is the difficulty in producing it is the shape of this molecule is specific to the targeted receptor. Even if the chemical properties are be met, if the key is not designed right, it won't fit the lock it's meant for. So, done wrong it may not be effective or do something else all together. Given that, I'm in no rush on this one. Question I have is how does Janoshik or any lab know how to test for something that's not even close to being released? Reta included? Shared database of known signatures?
Question I have is how does Janoshik or any lab know how to test for something that's not even close to being released?
I have a copy of the Jano cert where they accidentally copied the structure of it onto the cert. How they got it I dont know, but they have it. I've also seen what is apparently a photo on socials of a sample bag of some from a trial being said to be going to the labs as reference sample. Wish i screenshotted that post.
I've got my kit from erp/jkl/wbs already, erp's telegram mod is running a group test where they are having freedom diagnostics test it, so we're waiting for the results there.
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I was chatting with the lab guys over on K-hole about 3 weeks ago, asking if they had the standard which to test with, and most did. Followed up with, "has anyone actually tested any yet, successfully". Dustin with Vanguard got back with me that Monday, and said they had tested 7 examples. 2 were good, the other 5 were zero, or wrong peptide. So, there's only two producing it, Uther and QWB at the moment,.and considering it cost twice Reta, and with the demand, it's a scammers market.
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@newenough this is encouraging to see. I have some on the way, Thankfully the original vendor that was going to be used was cancelled and the GBO went with Uth. So I remain hopeful the additional testing is positive
“Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”
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@newenough this is encouraging to see. I have some on the way, Thankfully the original vendor that was going to be used was cancelled and the GBO went with Uth. So I remain hopeful the additional testing is positive
@WisGal64 @newenough I need some kind of guide or flowchart for the first group/direct buy without customs crossing barrier. Do we have here on PC? I read the STG guide but that's very generic.
But then again I'm lazy, Nexa is adding more testing, so it's an easy button. lol
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Southern Aminos is selling it
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Southern Aminos is selling it
@davidbrown The problem is testing for it. It takes a while to get good reference samples for comparison purposes so that the results can be verified.
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@stevepep the good labs do have the Standards, problem is the cost. Id/Mass/Purity is like $600 or more, and full panel $1500-2500+. Crazy...
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@davidbrown I bet they don't have a reference sample for it and are just plugging it into the equipment so from a purity standpoint, I personally wouldn't trust it. They also have become one of the least trustworthy labs. Supposedly, they were looking to hire a quality control officer to fix their issues.
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Yikes, their "Notes & Methodology" footnote 2 claims to test against a standard, but I suppose there is no way to verify that is true, or if true what their standard even is or where they obtained it. Well, I've been researching from Southern Aminos for some time and have had good experiences with them compared to another vendor for single vial and small batch vial orders.
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