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The Tri-healing protocol for Shoulder and Knee: the tale of 2 lab rats

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    I had that happen, it was the cartridges.

    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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      @juan-doe That could also be that the plug in the cartridge is a little canted or ‘sticky’ in the cartridge. I have had a couple of times now where depressing the button on the pen had a huge amount of resistance and almost wouldn’t dispense. Two different pens, two different peptides.

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      @ResearchCat This is happening with syringes. I have noticed that the way I hold and apply pressure helps. Its a work in progress.

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        That is weird. Can you see any gelling or globs in the vial? The only time i have seen that issue with a syringe was with some ARA that had formed some little globs.

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          @wisgal64 I was so glad to find this thread. Have left knee outer portion giving me fits and right shoulder as well; guess Cartalax is next. Tirz, NAD+, GHKcu (to be replaced by GLOW or KLOW), then Cartalax. Already take the supps you named. Where are you injecting on knee? I know you said biceps on and shoulder, correct? Is knee pin direct or above the area to move with blood flow?

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            @wisgal64 I was so glad to find this thread. Have left knee outer portion giving me fits and right shoulder as well; guess Cartalax is next. Tirz, NAD+, GHKcu (to be replaced by GLOW or KLOW), then Cartalax. Already take the supps you named. Where are you injecting on knee? I know you said biceps on and shoulder, correct? Is knee pin direct or above the area to move with blood flow?

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            @Eleanor I tested 8mg klow for 10 weeks, off now for some weeks, and started cartalax and ARA recently. All that has really helped because the last few days I've noticed I'm sleeping in 3-4 hour blocks. Previously I constantly tossed and turned because my should, knees, and foot hurt. I've been thinking I must really be tired, but this morning I realized it was the peps doing their thing. Good luck.

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              @Eleanor I tested 8mg klow for 10 weeks, off now for some weeks, and started cartalax and ARA recently. All that has really helped because the last few days I've noticed I'm sleeping in 3-4 hour blocks. Previously I constantly tossed and turned because my should, knees, and foot hurt. I've been thinking I must really be tired, but this morning I realized it was the peps doing their thing. Good luck.

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              @Hammertime65 That is so good to hear! Thank you! What injection sites are you using?

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                @Hammertime65 That is so good to hear! Thank you! What injection sites are you using?

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                @Eleanor Not sight specific because I've had 6 surgeries in the last 5 years and they all hurt. So I rotate. At the amount of klow I was doing, the injection site might hurt for a day or 2, especially belly and inner thigh.

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                  @Eleanor Not sight specific because I've had 6 surgeries in the last 5 years and they all hurt. So I rotate. At the amount of klow I was doing, the injection site might hurt for a day or 2, especially belly and inner thigh.

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                  @Hammertime65 Ouch! Too tender for my bod. Will have to bum it the old fashioned way.

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                    My Rat is getting it daily, I'm rotating my sites upper leg above my bad knee, and stomach. have been on this protocol for about a month, I also added bpc 157 2x a day am and pm I have noticed the Cartalx has a slight sting to it. I have noticed a reduction in knee pain using the stairs already! It used to hurt going down steps. so plugging away at it!

                    .75 mg bpc am and pm
                    .5 mg tb 500 daily pm
                    .5 mg kpv pm
                    2mg ghk cu pm
                    2mg cartalx pm

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                      @wisgal64 I was so glad to find this thread. Have left knee outer portion giving me fits and right shoulder as well; guess Cartalax is next. Tirz, NAD+, GHKcu (to be replaced by GLOW or KLOW), then Cartalax. Already take the supps you named. Where are you injecting on knee? I know you said biceps on and shoulder, correct? Is knee pin direct or above the area to move with blood flow?

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                      @Eleanor said:

                      @wisgal64 I was so glad to find this thread. Have left knee outer portion giving me fits and right shoulder as well; guess Cartalax is next. Tirz, NAD+, GHKcu (to be replaced by GLOW or KLOW), then Cartalax. Already take the supps you named. Where are you injecting on knee? I know you said biceps on and shoulder, correct? Is knee pin direct or above the area to move with blood flow?

                      I missed this one. For my knee I used the area around the knee, not direct. Definitely not into the knee joint itself, too much risk there imo.

                      “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                        @Eleanor said:

                        @wisgal64 I was so glad to find this thread. Have left knee outer portion giving me fits and right shoulder as well; guess Cartalax is next. Tirz, NAD+, GHKcu (to be replaced by GLOW or KLOW), then Cartalax. Already take the supps you named. Where are you injecting on knee? I know you said biceps on and shoulder, correct? Is knee pin direct or above the area to move with blood flow?

                        I missed this one. For my knee I used the area around the knee, not direct. Definitely not into the knee joint itself, too much risk there imo.

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                        @WisGal64 You injecting around the knee with Cartalax, or other?

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                          @eleanor it was around the knee with all 3(Cartalax, BP and TB)

                          “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                            Thank you. My thought was to inject mostly above the area and let gravity do the work for me. Why not, gravity has certainly done its work on the rest of me...

                            Has your knee problem improved? Did you also inject around your shoulder?

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                              @eleanor unfortunately, my knee problem intensified(affected both knees unfortunately) it had gotten to the point I could hardly walk so I stopped. Cartalax upregulates UC11 (Collagen II) and can cause joint pain for some people(of course I had to be one of them sighh), it's supposed to be temporary but it was too great for me. It triggered an inflammatory response is all I can figure. I ended up going into Ortho, first step, steriod shots to get the inflammation under control, then a gel shot in both. My Ortho reminded me, the RA will aggravate the OA, and my rat probably did not have it under control when I started. She was right, I was banking on the idea that BPC, TB and Cartalax having/being anti-inflammatory I'd be ok(found out that was a bad gamble to take). She did say, if I'm planning to resume "my experiment" be mindful of that aspect, and she wanted updates, in addition, she wanted links to info I had lol

                              For shoulder, it was Rat#1, inj site was the shoulder area, kept it local.

                              “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                                @eleanor unfortunately, my knee problem intensified(affected both knees unfortunately) it had gotten to the point I could hardly walk so I stopped. Cartalax upregulates UC11 (Collagen II) and can cause joint pain for some people(of course I had to be one of them sighh), it's supposed to be temporary but it was too great for me. It triggered an inflammatory response is all I can figure. I ended up going into Ortho, first step, steriod shots to get the inflammation under control, then a gel shot in both. My Ortho reminded me, the RA will aggravate the OA, and my rat probably did not have it under control when I started. She was right, I was banking on the idea that BPC, TB and Cartalax having/being anti-inflammatory I'd be ok(found out that was a bad gamble to take). She did say, if I'm planning to resume "my experiment" be mindful of that aspect, and she wanted updates, in addition, she wanted links to info I had lol

                                For shoulder, it was Rat#1, inj site was the shoulder area, kept it local.

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                                @WisGal64 Thanks very much, this explains a lot. Knee pain a tad worse, so leaving it alone.

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                                  I have a bad knee I been light footing for a few years. I took GLOw because I got impatient for my Wolverine. Inflammation went away. After the Glow and Wolverine vials my knee is better by 60%. As you can see, I didnt even run any protocol. This time Ill be running them bpc and tb separate. There is a protocol I'm goingnto comit and see how far I can take this knee. I even hit the treadmill without any issues.

                                  2M

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                                    So sorry to hear about rat #2

                                    I have a rat with same problem.
                                    And research seemed to make it more painful.
                                    Would love to hear that any rat got it better.
                                    I still have hope

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                                      WisGal,
                                      You reference eye-related reactions to the BPC, could you be a little specific about that.
                                      I have notice something between a minor itch and minor ache in my eye(s) about 1-2 hours after injection, but also have allergies that I have attributed it to.
                                      Thanks

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                                        Thank you for sharing experiences! I am contemplating some research on the knee joint of my kangaroo that sustained injuries long ago.

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                                          @pmcelveen The first time around when I tried it, I was seeing squiggly flashes of light, I guess some call them floaters. But no pain or itch with it. I later was told by someone on a forum who said that they are an ophthalmologist to make sure I'm getting plenty of H20, especially being on a GLP1, could be electrolyte related as well as being tired.

                                          “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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