MOTS-c reaction….strange
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Oh my goodness, I was just about to type a post about this… I was researching 5mg every 3 days (2/3 times a week) my first two 10mg vials, all good no problem, no reaction. So, I thought I’d buy a higher concentration 40mg, diluted with 2ml BAC water - what the hell! Huge itchy welts, which have lasted a week so far! I was so worried, I thought I might have to see a medical professional. But, I think they’re calming down, phew. I just don’t understand why this happened. It’s either the following:
- Poor quality peptide, although the supplier claims to third party test - COA was Janoshik, which I checked direct with Janoshik.
- Higher concentration
- BAC water, although I used a new bottle of Hospira
- If this is my genuine reaction to MOTS-C, we’re the first two vials MOTS-C?!
What are people’s thoughts? Should I try a lower dose or will I just get smaller itchy welts?
Thanks for any advice
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Sounds like it may be due to the higher concentration per ml of BAC water that may have done it for you. At least that is the variable that sticks out to me.
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Sounds like it may be due to the higher concentration per ml of BAC water that may have done it for you. At least that is the variable that sticks out to me.
Hi @Shaqdiesel Yeah, that’s the conclusion I’ve come to, 100% a histamine response. After looking at chat rooms and YT, it seems my experience is quite common with MOTS-C. I’ll have to go back to 10mg vials.
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Alright, today I went back to my "normal" 3.33mg injection 3X per week. I skipped Monday. The welts from last week have subsided and it has been 2 hours since my pin today and......nothing so far!!
@jackiew1 Hey, glad it worked out for you. How confusing though, you’d think you’d be fine with a lower dose daily.
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Pinned the first dose into my subject today. The reaction is very similar to the SS31 reaction. Turns warm, itchy and red almost immediately. the area spreads out left to right on my stomach perhaps 1 to 1.5 inches. and then up and down half an inch or so. But within 1 hour its gone. AI says its most likely not even a histamine reaction but just a local cell reaction to the peptide itself.
But this was just the first pin which was a baby dose (0.5mg) at 10mg/3ml dilution.
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Pinned the first dose into my subject today. The reaction is very similar to the SS31 reaction. Turns warm, itchy and red almost immediately. the area spreads out left to right on my stomach perhaps 1 to 1.5 inches. and then up and down half an inch or so. But within 1 hour its gone. AI says its most likely not even a histamine reaction but just a local cell reaction to the peptide itself.
But this was just the first pin which was a baby dose (0.5mg) at 10mg/3ml dilution.
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Pinned the first dose into my subject today. The reaction is very similar to the SS31 reaction. Turns warm, itchy and red almost immediately. the area spreads out left to right on my stomach perhaps 1 to 1.5 inches. and then up and down half an inch or so. But within 1 hour its gone. AI says its most likely not even a histamine reaction but just a local cell reaction to the peptide itself.
But this was just the first pin which was a baby dose (0.5mg) at 10mg/3ml dilution.
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Instead of dropping dosage in my uniratosaur I doubled the bac water.
Instead of 25us it was still 5mg but at 50u this morning and I have no itching, swelling, space maggots spewing out, or any involuntary traversment of time to report at this hour. -
Instead of dropping dosage in my uniratosaur I doubled the bac water.
Instead of 25us it was still 5mg but at 50u this morning and I have no itching, swelling, space maggots spewing out, or any involuntary traversment of time to report at this hour.@Stan-Douglas Space maggots!
I’ve just heavily diluted mine too, fingers crossed
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One thing you could try, and this goes for SS-31 as well. Try using Bacteriostatic 0.9% Sodium Chloride to reconstitute your MOTS-c. It just might help get rid of the reaction you're having.
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@mrjoshua44
You're reconstituting with that or diluting it? -
@mrjoshua44
You're reconstituting with that or diluting it?@Stan-Douglas Reconstituting just like you would with regular BAC water.
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One thing you could try, and this goes for SS-31 as well. Try using Bacteriostatic 0.9% Sodium Chloride to reconstitute your MOTS-c. It just might help get rid of the reaction you're having.
@mrjoshua44 said in MOTS-c reaction….strange:
One thing you could try, and this goes for SS-31 as well. Try using Bacteriostatic 0.9% Sodium Chloride to reconstitute your MOTS-c. It just might help get rid of the reaction you're having.
Why does using this help?
Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes
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@mrjoshua44 said in MOTS-c reaction….strange:
One thing you could try, and this goes for SS-31 as well. Try using Bacteriostatic 0.9% Sodium Chloride to reconstitute your MOTS-c. It just might help get rid of the reaction you're having.
Why does using this help?
@Commander The sodium chloride content makes the solution isotonic to the body, which significantly reduces the injection-site stinging, welting, and localized irritation that many users experience with plain bacteriostatic water.
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@Commander The sodium chloride content makes the solution isotonic to the body, which significantly reduces the injection-site stinging, welting, and localized irritation that many users experience with plain bacteriostatic water.
@mrjoshua44
I have a bottle on the way thanks to your post but
why don't we use this for all our peps then? It's about the same price a regular BW. -
@mrjoshua44
I have a bottle on the way thanks to your post but
why don't we use this for all our peps then? It's about the same price a regular BW.@Stan-Douglas some peptides don't do well the salts so for those use regular BAC water.
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@Randy Interesting, isnt a temp injection site itch a common reaction for mots-c not necessarily an indication of the peptide intolerance? Both ss31 and mots-c give me this reaction. It doesnt get worse with increased injections or higher doses. I've researched ss31 atleast 15 pins at this point and titrated up initially without change to the reaction itself, and mots-c i've done 3 pins. It lasts generally no longer than 30 minutes the redness/itching, its pretty mild itchiness too. Its like once its absorbed the local reaction immediately goes away.
I've heard of people getting welts and continuous pinning escalated it. But are welts and light injection site reactions the same kind of "warning"? I'd treat welts or reactions that dont clear immediately quite differently.
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