Ion Peptides User Review: FAKE REVIEWS FAKE PEPTIDES

Randy

What about these looks fake?

I agree, it's a little odd that they're bouncing all over the place between AFI, Kovera, freedom and ILS.

Canineriot

Do you have any proof of these allegations? They seemed alright to me, so I'm curious to see why your review says these things.

Randy

My guess is they only think jano is real.

WisGal64

Huh, the products I’ve purchased from them are fake you say?
Worked pretty darn good for me for being fake.

Shaqdiesel

I've used Ion a lot. Never had a problem and tge peps performed perfectly.

vpeps

Ion sold me Epithalon that had an effect like a real Epithalon should have, and no side effects. On the other hand, I got Epithalon from Verified Peptides, that had a Janoshik batch COA, but it caused bad side-effects and no expected effects. So, I trust Ion in this case.

pep_researcher

@Randy Many vendors are using multiple labs due to testing delays. Some switched from Freedom when they decided to do full panel testing.

Ion has added a ton to their portfolio and they sell out batches fast. So probably using multiple testing labs.

I'm in a couple of other communities where Ion is quite popular. Haven't seen anyone complaining about quality. I've used Ion too without any problems.

OP hasn't given substantial evidence why they claim COAs are fake.

Commander

@pep_researcher said in Ion Peptides User Review: FAKE REVIEWS FAKE PEPTIDES:

Some switched from Freedom when they decided to do full panel testing.

What does this mean?

pep_researcher

@Commander Full panel — net content, purity, ID, endotoxins, heavy metals, sterility or more.

pep_researcher

@Commander Just as we are discussing Ion's chaotic lab choices, on another forum the admin made some explanatory posts about Ion's choices.

So looks like a lot of people are raising questions. But I still don't think they use fake COAs or do any cheating.

WisGal64

@pep_researcher just saw it

There's been a lot of noise around ION lately — questions about COAs, multiple lab usage, batch failures. I want to share my perspective with you guys directly because this community is where I'd rather have the conversation, not in the TikTok comments.
What I Know About the Lab Situation
A while back, Shay told me he wanted to move ION toward 7X testing across different companies. To do that, he tried to go to AFI — but AFI doesn't offer endotoxin testing. So he started cross-testing with both AFI and Freedom Diagnostics to cover the full panel.
That's the context behind the multi-lab situation. It wasn't COA shopping. It was trying to build a more complete testing program when no single lab covered everything he wanted.

WisGal64

The fact that the OP hasn’t come back with any factual information is telling

WisGal64

@gym.rat The issue I had with the GHK/KPV blend was crystallized when reconned first 2 vials. I reached out to Shay, sent pics, he sent me 6 new vials from new batch. Pulled the entire batch from their shelves per se. Received the new batch in 3 days, no issues encountered so far.

Add’l items: KPV, ARA, TA-1, capsule creams, Reta all worked fine for me

jackieee

I just ordered 3 different things from them today. I have received several orders from them with no issues.

pep_researcher

@WisGal64 Yup that's exactly what I read on the other forum, and I believe that. I think you are referring to Derek's forum. Hehe

I don't think Shay is in this for short term to just grab customer money and close shop.

They have massively expanded their custom made product catalog. One wouldn't do that for quick grab money and go kind of business runs where they manipulate COAs for convenience.

sbrindley

It looks like they've recently started moving to Kovera Labs for testing all their panels. I've ordered several times from them and my wife and I both use them. So far we've had nothing but good experiences.

Commander

I was reading about Kovera Labs on Meso-rx. They are in a shared workspace that doesn’t seem to be legitimate

Rennitt

Every coa I checked from Ion checked out on the third party lab website. I really like ILS and of course Jano is great. I am very skeptical of Kovera labs though.

Commander

Jano is EXPENSIVE…

pep_researcher

Jumping in again -- I like Ion and their product portfolio. Usually everything I want can be found under one roof saving separate shipping costs. I also don't think Shay (the owner) is doing any cheating with COAs.

HOWEVER, I recently had a long back and forth with their customer support trying to just confirm the batch ID they were shipping for a product

The customer support went great lengths in trying to push me back on my simple question of current batch ID confirmation, saying they ship whichever is the "recent batch" which is ridiculous because as late as 2 months back their testing coverage was very different, which is technically "recent". Recent is also such a vague and subjective term.

I think now I fully understand why people got irked with their COA management especially if the customer support kept avoiding batch ID confirmation by just the rhetoric of "recent batch"

I got pretty pissed myself! I hope Shay gets the importance of transparency about current shipping batches, otherwise despite great product portfolio they might lose customers who care about testing and COAs than just prices.