Taking the Plunge - But do I need to filter
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Jumping in to see if I can help the rat with his joint injuries and issues.
Going fairly simple with BPC-157 daily and TB-500 2-3 / week.
I have been watching videos, asking questions, even reading!
If I am not mixing or re-vial-ing, do I need to filter?
If so, what is the best filter specs for BPC & TB?
Cheers
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No need to filter if you are not moving the peptide into a new vial or cartridge.
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Jumping in to see if I can help the rat with his joint injuries and issues.
Going fairly simple with BPC-157 daily and TB-500 2-3 / week.
I have been watching videos, asking questions, even reading!
If I am not mixing or re-vial-ing, do I need to filter?
If so, what is the best filter specs for BPC & TB?
Cheers
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@zotparkerm WELCOME! Some interesting and great information here. I'm relatively new to peptides too but can tell you from just my mere 3 yrs of chemistry in college, filter, Filter, FILTER. I filter literally everything. ALL these peptides have a Chinese connection, so, please, FILTER!
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@zotparkerm WELCOME! Some interesting and great information here. I'm relatively new to peptides too but can tell you from just my mere 3 yrs of chemistry in college, filter, Filter, FILTER. I filter literally everything. ALL these peptides have a Chinese connection, so, please, FILTER!
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@gym.rat I think it's up to the individual. A question was asked, and I just gave my opinion. Like you, I don't use pens either. 2 reasons being 1. I've got syringes up to my eyeballs and 2. The less mechanical parts something contains, the less to go wrong, GENERALLY speaking. Just my bias opinion. While some of us don't buy grey directly, I have to wonder if they all have some sort of grey origin, esp. after watching the Janoshik video.
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Thanks all! Guess it's a "grey" area! I have to say I am a bit concerned that I can find no evidence that any of the sources I have looked at so far are actually US mfg, so I might start off with some filters.
@zotparkerm said:
Thanks all! Guess it's a "grey" area! I have to say I am a bit concerned that I can find no evidence that any of the sources I have looked at so far are actually US mfg, so I might start off with some filters.
The possible exception is Eli Lilly. Good luck with that...Sheesh!
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I've read a lot of back and forth when it comes to filtering. What if you have a peptide (pre-mixed) that came from a legitimate and established compounding pharmacy? Is the general consensus to filter those as well? Is the filtering step needed because the peptide is coming from the grey market, or simply because the peptide is being moved from one vial to another?
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@nuncles This is exactly what I was thinking about when I got to your post. I have mentioned it before. I will wager that 100% of people who source from ‘legit’ vendors like Hims or OrderlyMeds don’t test, don’t question the concentration, and don’t filter.
In this case, you are paying for the perception - maybe the reality - of legitimacy. I stopped buying from one of them when they changed their compounding pharmacy and just basically said, “Don’t worry, still awesome stuff, we’re just mixing it with B12 you didn’t ask for to avoid FDA sanctions, I mean, for your benefit! Nothing to see here!”
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I've read a lot of back and forth when it comes to filtering. What if you have a peptide (pre-mixed) that came from a legitimate and established compounding pharmacy? Is the general consensus to filter those as well? Is the filtering step needed because the peptide is coming from the grey market, or simply because the peptide is being moved from one vial to another?
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@gym.rat I think it's up to the individual. A question was asked, and I just gave my opinion. Like you, I don't use pens either. 2 reasons being 1. I've got syringes up to my eyeballs and 2. The less mechanical parts something contains, the less to go wrong, GENERALLY speaking. Just my bias opinion. While some of us don't buy grey directly, I have to wonder if they all have some sort of grey origin, esp. after watching the Janoshik video.
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@Nuncles IMO opinion why even question it? It's so easy to filter and does nothing to the quality of the peptide. It's an extra precaution, so why not? If you are putting into a pen vial its a no brainer
@Stevepep That's a valid point, but right now I don't have any filters and am impatient to use my pens
. But I would just like to know the reason behind it. I get what the filtering process is doing, but is the reason because it's being transferred from vial to vial or just because the original vial is coming from a questionable source. There is also that slight bit of waste involved. The pep I'm referring to didn't come from the grey market therefore it's not the cheapest. I would like to keep the waste to a minimum. -
@Stevepep That's a valid point, but right now I don't have any filters and am impatient to use my pens
. But I would just like to know the reason behind it. I get what the filtering process is doing, but is the reason because it's being transferred from vial to vial or just because the original vial is coming from a questionable source. There is also that slight bit of waste involved. The pep I'm referring to didn't come from the grey market therefore it's not the cheapest. I would like to keep the waste to a minimum.@Nuncles You will be fine its a good practice and has nothing to do with transferring vials. I highly suggest you watch @randy videos on this subject. Most all of the suppliers are buying from buy from a handful of factories so don't fool yourself into thinking because its not grey and you paid more its ok. The suppliers seperate themselves by testing. Its not about pretty boxes and marketing. I order from Nexaph a bunch they are reasonably priced and do the neccesary testing. They aren't advertising all over social media its a word of mouth company. People who know, know. I was going to order DSIP from them and the COA showed 98pct so I skipped it but to me this shows honesty. @randy has a great video on the suppliers and how to look at COA's. If you are ordering single vials EZPeptides is essentially Nexaph without having to order 10. I learned these things the hard way. I have been scammed and gotten junk or nothing at all. I have bought from the most expensive vendors with the pretty packaging and advertising and COA's to match and their stuff was not good.
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Jumping in to see if I can help the rat with his joint injuries and issues.
Going fairly simple with BPC-157 daily and TB-500 2-3 / week.
I have been watching videos, asking questions, even reading!
If I am not mixing or re-vial-ing, do I need to filter?
If so, what is the best filter specs for BPC & TB?
Cheers
If so, what is the best filter specs for BPC & TB?
for all peptides:
Sterile PES syringe filter: 4mm 0.22 μm (filtration for 1-2ml)
Sterile PES syringe filter: 13mm 0.22 μm (filtration 2-10ml)make sure they say sterile on the box and are individually sealed.
make sure the filtration membrane is PES. "polyethersulfone."
only use once and throw away. buy a box of 50-100pcs for convenience. -
I don't filter and haven't in the past. I research with peps from US resellers with endotoxin and sterility batch testing.
Haven't had any noticeable issue yet (touch wood).
But I may use filters for my home brewed Ghetto BAC... I'm trying to move away from Hospira hype and price gouging. LOL
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I don't filter and haven't in the past. I research with peps from US resellers with endotoxin and sterility batch testing.
Haven't had any noticeable issue yet (touch wood).
But I may use filters for my home brewed Ghetto BAC... I'm trying to move away from Hospira hype and price gouging. LOL
@pep_researcher A bunch of people are doing this, buying pharmacy-grade sterile water and benzyl alcohol and filling up 30mg sterile vials in a 100-1 ratio. Apparently its around $3-$4 a vial. I have a Chinese BAC water vial sitting outside now for 3 weeks in the heat next to a Hospira to see if anything would grow in it, and it's crystal clear. They are both crystal clear. I also tested the PH it was 5.6. This doesn't mean use the $1 a vial Chinese BAC water, but I figured, why not see what's up with it? They threw in two cases of this stuff on my last order
The market always reacts
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@pep_researcher A bunch of people are doing this, buying pharmacy-grade sterile water and benzyl alcohol and filling up 30mg sterile vials in a 100-1 ratio. Apparently its around $3-$4 a vial. I have a Chinese BAC water vial sitting outside now for 3 weeks in the heat next to a Hospira to see if anything would grow in it, and it's crystal clear. They are both crystal clear. I also tested the PH it was 5.6. This doesn't mean use the $1 a vial Chinese BAC water, but I figured, why not see what's up with it? They threw in two cases of this stuff on my last order
The market always reacts
@Stevepep One correction — it's not 10:1 ratio. It's 100:1 ratio. Remember benzyl alcohol is 0.9% which is roughly 1% so 0.1ml BA for every 10ml sterile water.
If someone is mixing in 10:1 ratio, that explains why they needed some special rotator mixer because at that high ratio BA will actively tend to separate. Not at 100:1.
I don't buy dark grays but I would any day trust my home brewed Ghetto BAC by sourcing ingredients myself than dark gray vendor complementary BAC.
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@Stevepep One correction — it's not 10:1 ratio. It's 100:1 ratio. Remember benzyl alcohol is 0.9% which is roughly 1% so 0.1ml BA for every 10ml sterile water.
If someone is mixing in 10:1 ratio, that explains why they needed some special rotator mixer because at that high ratio BA will actively tend to separate. Not at 100:1.
I don't buy dark grays but I would any day trust my home brewed Ghetto BAC by sourcing ingredients myself than dark gray vendor complementary BAC.
@pep_researcher wow typo damn I phone I fixed so someone doesn’t get screwed up. Keep us up to date
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Ive never filtered. Only learned about it through this page. Tbh
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