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Flawless Compounds User Review: Cloudy Poor Product

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    Eleanor
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    #5

    I don't use Reta but their Survo has always been great. Wonder what's going on?

    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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      #6

      This is the second post I've seen regarding cloudy reta from Flawless. Definitely a quality issue it seems from this batch.

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        Reconning my 3rd vial of GHK-cu + KPV blend in 4 days and all 3 from Flawless have been cloudy. They were responsive to the 1st vial having an issue. Just emailed them again.

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          crazy. 😷 😷 😷

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          • E Eleanor

            I don't use Reta but their Survo has always been great. Wonder what's going on?

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            mrjoshua44
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            @Eleanor I'm with ya! Their Survo has been fantastic! Never had an issue of it coming out cloudy, always clear as a bell.
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              Stevepep
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              These guys are a love-hate company. I know they plant positive reviews all the time, but there are several people who swear by them. As an outsider, it certainly appears they are very inconsistent with their products. If you order from them consistently, you may want to consider random testing on your own or switch to someone more reliable. I have had perfectly clear vials test very poorly from Grey and some other vendors.

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                I've also bought Survo from them and it was working well, but that's it I tried so far.

                attentiion is all you need

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                  Haven't used their Reta, but the Cartalax, ARA and DSIP worked fine, no issues. Seems like there have been a lot of complaints in other forums with Reta in general.

                  “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                  • WisGal64W WisGal64

                    Haven't used their Reta, but the Cartalax, ARA and DSIP worked fine, no issues. Seems like there have been a lot of complaints in other forums with Reta in general.

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                    @WisGal64 Reta is hard to manufacture, hard to properly test, and unclear whether a particular compound is formulated to exactly match Lilly's LY-3437943 or not.

                    attentiion is all you need

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                      @vpeps I can believe that. Lily never meant for it to be duplicated.

                      “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                      • WisGal64W WisGal64

                        @vpeps I can believe that. Lily never meant for it to be duplicated.

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                        vpeps
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                        @WisGal64 the formula is known, but how can you tell from a standard single-stage Mass Spectrometry of retatrutide where the fatty tail is attached, at 17th or 20th amino acid? It is possible to find using Tandem Mass Spectrometry, but what lab does that? Labs use HPLC for ID, but they have to run it on a Reversed-Phase HPLC system to tell the difference between two charts and also to have a good certified reference standard to compare, and it's still good to pair it with MS/MS. I usually see only one HPLC chart if any on the reports, which lets me think the testing is incomplete.

                        attentiion is all you need

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                          @vpeps that’s above my pay grade lol

                          “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                          • WisGal64W WisGal64

                            @vpeps that’s above my pay grade lol

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                            @WisGal64 all I'm saying the lab can tell you it's Reta, fill the report with even more complex abbreviations than I mentioned above, report genuine charts and numbers produced from real testings of your sample on real equipment, but still it may not be Reta.

                            attentiion is all you need

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                              @WisGal64 the formula is known, but how can you tell from a standard single-stage Mass Spectrometry of retatrutide where the fatty tail is attached, at 17th or 20th amino acid? It is possible to find using Tandem Mass Spectrometry, but what lab does that? Labs use HPLC for ID, but they have to run it on a Reversed-Phase HPLC system to tell the difference between two charts and also to have a good certified reference standard to compare, and it's still good to pair it with MS/MS. I usually see only one HPLC chart if any on the reports, which lets me think the testing is incomplete.

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                              Stevepep
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                              @vpeps I believe the API's are tested to these standards. They even identify every other compound in the API at the better factories. What happens after that is the question. There have been a lot of mixed batches. I have seen this myself ordering grey. I use blueitt (spelling may be wrong) on every vial not from Nexaph. I test at a lab and then verify there is an actual peptide chain in the vials I use. I have had some come back with no peptide chain. Its rare but it happens. I just had it happen on an SS31 vial, the next one showed a peptide. The one vial I tested at a lab showed 99.6pct. Clearly a moxed batch with at least one zero peptide.

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                                @vpeps I believe the API's are tested to these standards. They even identify every other compound in the API at the better factories. What happens after that is the question. There have been a lot of mixed batches. I have seen this myself ordering grey. I use blueitt (spelling may be wrong) on every vial not from Nexaph. I test at a lab and then verify there is an actual peptide chain in the vials I use. I have had some come back with no peptide chain. Its rare but it happens. I just had it happen on an SS31 vial, the next one showed a peptide. The one vial I tested at a lab showed 99.6pct. Clearly a moxed batch with at least one zero peptide.

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                                @Stevepep you may be right, but what do we know about API or the finishing process for Reta from Flawless for example? We only have that COA to make an opinion, and the research subject to test it in-vivo.

                                attentiion is all you need

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                                • vpepsV vpeps

                                  @Stevepep you may be right, but what do we know about API or the finishing process for Reta from Flawless for example? We only have that COA to make an opinion, and the research subject to test it in-vivo.

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                                  Stevepep
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                                  @vpeps No doubt thats the issue totally agree and what they are selling could be from different API's.

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                                    mrjoshua44
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                                    Just reconstituted a 10mg vial of Reta from Flawless, Lot # FL-010207. Used 2.5mL of Hospira BAC Water and it came out clear as a bell both before and after filtering. So no problems with this Reta being cloudy.

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                                    • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                                      Just reconstituted a 10mg vial of Reta from Flawless, Lot # FL-010207. Used 2.5mL of Hospira BAC Water and it came out clear as a bell both before and after filtering. So no problems with this Reta being cloudy.

                                      IMG_1594.jpeg IMG_1595.jpeg IMG_1596.jpeg IMG_1597.jpeg

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                                      @mrjoshua44 the pen though 😍

                                      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                      • RandyR Randy

                                        @mrjoshua44 the pen though 😍

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                                        mrjoshua44
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                                        @Randy I thought you might like that.

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