New Video by Jano guy
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https://youtu.be/IOjTGQSh968?is=pwuDwwKyiY8117nn
It’s really fascinating clearly they are the standard. Bottom line after mass, purity. It’s sterility. He said he believed endotoxins testing was worthless but that one Jeep test he called an outlier proved him wrong. He has not seen a test fail endotoxin and pass sterility so he said it’s the best value after HPLC. Also said you can’t test purity in multiple compounds like Glow. He said no chance of Fentanyl but he added it because he said what am I going to do not take their money. He seems very honest.
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I can watch this stuff all day. He pretty much said you can’t trust sterility or endotoxin at other “small labs” they don’t have the equipment or environment to accurately test essentially. Also interesting on moisture I see that in a lot of vials posted. You can see the splashing on the sides and clumping that is not a good environment for shelf life. In the nutritional powder space it’s a real problem it causes products to breakdown and lose efficacy very fast. My take away is Jano is leaps and bounds ahead of these US Labs in terms of experience, standards, process, size, scale and equipment. Another reason to stick with Nexaph and Ezpeptide. Of course, I won’t but logic says I should. .
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I can watch this stuff all day. He pretty much said you can’t trust sterility or endotoxin at other “small labs” they don’t have the equipment or environment to accurately test essentially. Also interesting on moisture I see that in a lot of vials posted. You can see the splashing on the sides and clumping that is not a good environment for shelf life. In the nutritional powder space it’s a real problem it causes products to breakdown and lose efficacy very fast. My take away is Jano is leaps and bounds ahead of these US Labs in terms of experience, standards, process, size, scale and equipment. Another reason to stick with Nexaph and Ezpeptide. Of course, I won’t but logic says I should. .
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How do you know what machines or what the US labs look like. It is easy to say that “my stuff is better than everyone else’s ” but he would have to have been in every us lab know that.
@Commander I have not visited, but I think that's the point. Have you seen Freedom Labs' equipment, training, process etc. I haven't. This guy is showing everyone his systems, equipment, protocol etc. He clearly has set the standard. So much noise about sterility, endotoxins, and fentanyl. This guy honestly says endotoxins are extremely rare, a complete outlier, fentanyl is a waste of money, and says sterility would be the best add on. Not just a bunch of passes on a piece of paper that he insinuated keeps the customers happy. That is what we see pass, pass, pass, whether it's Kovera, Freedom or ILS and I like ILS and Freedom alot but they could have one employee or 10. who knows. I visited a local lab and would never test there. It was the size of a large walk-in closet in an industrial complex.
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@Commander I have not visited, but I think that's the point. Have you seen Freedom Labs' equipment, training, process etc. I haven't. This guy is showing everyone his systems, equipment, protocol etc. He clearly has set the standard. So much noise about sterility, endotoxins, and fentanyl. This guy honestly says endotoxins are extremely rare, a complete outlier, fentanyl is a waste of money, and says sterility would be the best add on. Not just a bunch of passes on a piece of paper that he insinuated keeps the customers happy. That is what we see pass, pass, pass, whether it's Kovera, Freedom or ILS and I like ILS and Freedom alot but they could have one employee or 10. who knows. I visited a local lab and would never test there. It was the size of a large walk-in closet in an industrial complex.
That is what we see pass, pass, pass
Not true. Because no vendor posts failed COAs. But I have seen some trace heavy metals being detected on COAs that vendors posted. One batch was showing multiple heavy metals. I skipped on that.
There was one COA which showed failed sterility but passed endotoxins. Ironically the vendor web dev posted that by mistake although the vendor had scrapped that batch.
Peptira owner in an interview had admitted that he has scrapped batches due to purity being less than 99%
Randy recently posted COAs from a vendor with purity just 90%
None of these were from Jano and all were US labs. Janoshik guy is young and looking for PR. Maybe US labs are not. We also have to keep in mind the sh*t that Eff Dee Aa is and how they might harass a lab if they are in too much light for pep testing and promoting.
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Amazing information for us new rat testers. I'm so glad I join this group. Thank you for posting. Now I can eat my cheese in comfort.
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That is what we see pass, pass, pass
Not true. Because no vendor posts failed COAs. But I have seen some trace heavy metals being detected on COAs that vendors posted. One batch was showing multiple heavy metals. I skipped on that.
There was one COA which showed failed sterility but passed endotoxins. Ironically the vendor web dev posted that by mistake although the vendor had scrapped that batch.
Peptira owner in an interview had admitted that he has scrapped batches due to purity being less than 99%
Randy recently posted COAs from a vendor with purity just 90%
None of these were from Jano and all were US labs. Janoshik guy is young and looking for PR. Maybe US labs are not. We also have to keep in mind the sh*t that Eff Dee Aa is and how they might harass a lab if they are in too much light for pep testing and promoting.
@pep_researcher I test everything I receive and personally everything has passed, and I have never seen purity below 99.5pct. I take what some vendor who is putting this stuff in a nice box says with a grain of salt. Question: What do you consider a high level of Heavy Metals?
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@pep_researcher I test everything I receive and personally everything has passed, and I have never seen purity below 99.5pct. I take what some vendor who is putting this stuff in a nice box says with a grain of salt. Question: What do you consider a high level of Heavy Metals?
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You are talking about real outliers with very low-quality products. I spent years in the nutritional space, and in these instances, it's not one thing. You see several. Pallidium is the most likely. For instance, low purity likely means other problems. High purity likely means an extremely low risk of problems.
There is just a lot of bad info and then people point to the one time as if it’s an industry issue when it isn’t . For instance the whole endotoxins and sterility stuff. Endotoxins come from bacteria. You heard the Jano guy say he has never had a test where he had a positive endotoxin and it passed sterility.
How about you can’t test multiple products for purity when they are combined like glow or wolverine. guess what freedom and ILS du just that. What the Jano guy said makes perfect sense as to why you can’t. So who is telling the truth?
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@pep_researcher Last big take away. He could easily say test for everything but he doesn't. He tells you its unneccessary which is the opposite of what you would expect.
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In terms of testing. My new protocol would be to first test for purity, get results and see where they fall. If its like I have seen on everything I have sent out (over 10 now) and its 99.5% or greater, there is like a .01% chance of something else being bad, but for my own sanity, I will take the next step and do Sterility and send in another vial. After that, I am good to go. I filter as well. When I think about relying on the testing from a vendor, I have lots of concerns, not just about the lab, but the fact that they are testing a couple of vials out of 1000's and choosing those vials. Another reason Nexaph is great. You have third-party testing and boatloads of users. Still, at least on my own its random out of 20 or so.
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