Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Zephyr)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Peptide Critic Community

Peptide Critic Community

  1. Randy the Rats Research Forum
  2. Vendor Reviews & Orders
  3. New Video by Jano guy
Prize
Red, White & Blue V2 Pens
Ends in
8161 entries · 1000 participants
Enter →

New Video by Jano guy

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Vendor Reviews & Orders
other-peptideresearching
14 Posts 5 Posters 230 Views 2 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • C Commander

    @Stevepep

    How do you know what machines or what the US labs look like. It is easy to say that “my stuff is better than everyone else’s ” but he would have to have been in every us lab know that.

    S Offline
    S Offline
    Stevepep
    wrote last edited by
    #5

    @Commander I have not visited, but I think that's the point. Have you seen Freedom Labs' equipment, training, process etc. I haven't. This guy is showing everyone his systems, equipment, protocol etc. He clearly has set the standard. So much noise about sterility, endotoxins, and fentanyl. This guy honestly says endotoxins are extremely rare, a complete outlier, fentanyl is a waste of money, and says sterility would be the best add on. Not just a bunch of passes on a piece of paper that he insinuated keeps the customers happy. That is what we see pass, pass, pass, whether it's Kovera, Freedom or ILS and I like ILS and Freedom alot but they could have one employee or 10. who knows. I visited a local lab and would never test there. It was the size of a large walk-in closet in an industrial complex.

    pep_researcherP 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • S Stevepep

      @Commander I have not visited, but I think that's the point. Have you seen Freedom Labs' equipment, training, process etc. I haven't. This guy is showing everyone his systems, equipment, protocol etc. He clearly has set the standard. So much noise about sterility, endotoxins, and fentanyl. This guy honestly says endotoxins are extremely rare, a complete outlier, fentanyl is a waste of money, and says sterility would be the best add on. Not just a bunch of passes on a piece of paper that he insinuated keeps the customers happy. That is what we see pass, pass, pass, whether it's Kovera, Freedom or ILS and I like ILS and Freedom alot but they could have one employee or 10. who knows. I visited a local lab and would never test there. It was the size of a large walk-in closet in an industrial complex.

      pep_researcherP Online
      pep_researcherP Online
      pep_researcher
      wrote last edited by
      #6

      @Stevepep said:

      That is what we see pass, pass, pass

      Not true. Because no vendor posts failed COAs. But I have seen some trace heavy metals being detected on COAs that vendors posted. One batch was showing multiple heavy metals. I skipped on that.

      There was one COA which showed failed sterility but passed endotoxins. Ironically the vendor web dev posted that by mistake although the vendor had scrapped that batch.

      Peptira owner in an interview had admitted that he has scrapped batches due to purity being less than 99%

      Randy recently posted COAs from a vendor with purity just 90%

      None of these were from Jano and all were US labs. Janoshik guy is young and looking for PR. Maybe US labs are not. We also have to keep in mind the sh*t that Eff Dee Aa is and how they might harass a lab if they are in too much light for pep testing and promoting.

      S 1 Reply Last reply
      2
      • Rodney_RatR Offline
        Rodney_RatR Offline
        Rodney_Rat
        wrote last edited by
        #7

        Amazing information for us new rat testers. I'm so glad I join this group. Thank you for posting. Now I can eat my cheese in comfort.

        1 Reply Last reply
        2
        • C Offline
          C Offline
          Commander
          wrote last edited by Commander
          #8

          IMG_2172.jpeg

          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • C Offline
            C Offline
            Commander
            wrote last edited by
            #9

            This is my problem with Jano… and there is no getting around this. Even if he has top notch equipment, can he be trusted. If you get caught once with your hand in the cookie jar, I will never trust you..

            Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

              @Stevepep said:

              That is what we see pass, pass, pass

              Not true. Because no vendor posts failed COAs. But I have seen some trace heavy metals being detected on COAs that vendors posted. One batch was showing multiple heavy metals. I skipped on that.

              There was one COA which showed failed sterility but passed endotoxins. Ironically the vendor web dev posted that by mistake although the vendor had scrapped that batch.

              Peptira owner in an interview had admitted that he has scrapped batches due to purity being less than 99%

              Randy recently posted COAs from a vendor with purity just 90%

              None of these were from Jano and all were US labs. Janoshik guy is young and looking for PR. Maybe US labs are not. We also have to keep in mind the sh*t that Eff Dee Aa is and how they might harass a lab if they are in too much light for pep testing and promoting.

              S Offline
              S Offline
              Stevepep
              wrote last edited by
              #10

              @pep_researcher I test everything I receive and personally everything has passed, and I have never seen purity below 99.5pct. I take what some vendor who is putting this stuff in a nice box says with a grain of salt. Question: What do you consider a high level of Heavy Metals?

              pep_researcherP 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • S Stevepep

                @pep_researcher I test everything I receive and personally everything has passed, and I have never seen purity below 99.5pct. I take what some vendor who is putting this stuff in a nice box says with a grain of salt. Question: What do you consider a high level of Heavy Metals?

                pep_researcherP Online
                pep_researcherP Online
                pep_researcher
                wrote last edited by
                #11

                @Stevepep said:

                Question: What do you consider a high level of Heavy Metals

                It's not my personal opinion. Those who test for heavy metals, the COA shows acceptable limit and detected value if any, else ND (Not Detected).

                S 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                  @Stevepep said:

                  Question: What do you consider a high level of Heavy Metals

                  It's not my personal opinion. Those who test for heavy metals, the COA shows acceptable limit and detected value if any, else ND (Not Detected).

                  S Offline
                  S Offline
                  Stevepep
                  wrote last edited by Stevepep
                  #12

                  You are talking about real outliers with very low-quality products. I spent years in the nutritional space, and in these instances, it's not one thing. You see several. Pallidium is the most likely. For instance, low purity likely means other problems. High purity likely means an extremely low risk of problems.

                  There is just a lot of bad info and then people point to the one time as if it’s an industry issue when it isn’t . For instance the whole endotoxins and sterility stuff. Endotoxins come from bacteria. You heard the Jano guy say he has never had a test where he had a positive endotoxin and it passed sterility.

                  How about you can’t test multiple products for purity when they are combined like glow or wolverine. guess what freedom and ILS du just that. What the Jano guy said makes perfect sense as to why you can’t. So who is telling the truth?

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S Offline
                    S Offline
                    Stevepep
                    wrote last edited by
                    #13

                    @pep_researcher Last big take away. He could easily say test for everything but he doesn't. He tells you its unneccessary which is the opposite of what you would expect.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • S Offline
                      S Offline
                      Stevepep
                      wrote last edited by Stevepep
                      #14

                      In terms of testing. My new protocol would be to first test for purity, get results and see where they fall. If its like I have seen on everything I have sent out (over 10 now) and its 99.5% or greater, there is like a .01% chance of something else being bad, but for my own sanity, I will take the next step and do Sterility and send in another vial. After that, I am good to go. I filter as well. When I think about relying on the testing from a vendor, I have lots of concerns, not just about the lab, but the fact that they are testing a couple of vials out of 1000's and choosing those vials. Another reason Nexaph is great. You have third-party testing and boatloads of users. Still, at least on my own its random out of 20 or so.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1

                      Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                      Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                      With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                      Register Login
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • World
                      • Users
                      • Groups