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Anyone else considering Micro-dosing when the time comes?

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    I went into this with the idea and acceptance that I would be taking something for the rest of my life. GLP, Peptide/ Insulin... whatever. I know my genetics and T2D is a 100% guarantee if I do nothing, so i chose GLP for now and it has absolutely changed the game with my BG. So, if I can take a maintenance/micro dose after i hit my goal I will. Beats the other options in my opinion given the other positive benefits it looks to give.

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    • J JtCjEfF

      I went into this with the idea and acceptance that I would be taking something for the rest of my life. GLP, Peptide/ Insulin... whatever. I know my genetics and T2D is a 100% guarantee if I do nothing, so i chose GLP for now and it has absolutely changed the game with my BG. So, if I can take a maintenance/micro dose after i hit my goal I will. Beats the other options in my opinion given the other positive benefits it looks to give.

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      @JtCjEfF said:

      I went into this with the idea and acceptance that I would be taking something for the rest of my life. GLP, Peptide/ Insulin... whatever. I know my genetics and T2D is a 100% guarantee if I do nothing, so i chose GLP for now and it has absolutely changed the game with my BG. So, if I can take a maintenance/micro dose after i hit my goal I will. Beats the other options in my opinion given the other positive benefits it looks to give.

      That is my plan as well.

      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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      • WesEqualshXcW WesEqualshXc

        My plan is to research until I hit my goal and then taper off. Instead of micro-dosing I think I’ll try to treat Reta the same way I treat a lot of other peps. Cycle it in for 8, 12, or 16 weeks one - two times a year. Don’t know how good of a plan this is but that’s what I’m thinking.

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        @WesEqualshXc Are you tapering off to zero?

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        • BeeKindB BeeKind

          I'm currently micro-dosing just starting out and I'm losing weight. I'm hoping to break old habits and learn new ones so I don't have to depend on it to maintain my weight.

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          @BeeKind said:

          I'm currently micro-dosing just starting out and I'm losing weight. I'm hoping to break old habits and learn new ones so I don't have to depend on it to maintain my weight.

          Are you on 2.5 or less, or 5? Most everyone loses weight at first. When I was at 5, I loved it, wish I had stayed there longer. Now, as I'm drawing down (currently 6), I know 5 will not be the same. I wish you the best of everything. Stay with it!

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            I hesitated in posting this but wanted to express how fragile the situation is with those of us who have long-standing metabolic dysfunction. I know I do. I know it's a lifetime for me going forward.
            https://youtube.com/shorts/5wK3JJTJwB8?si=e1r-AgC2Omjn6Wg8

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              @BeeKind said:

              I'm currently micro-dosing just starting out and I'm losing weight. I'm hoping to break old habits and learn new ones so I don't have to depend on it to maintain my weight.

              Are you on 2.5 or less, or 5? Most everyone loses weight at first. When I was at 5, I loved it, wish I had stayed there longer. Now, as I'm drawing down (currently 6), I know 5 will not be the same. I wish you the best of everything. Stay with it!

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              @Eleanor I'm only researching. 75 of a mg twice a week. My test subjects don't respond well to higher doses.

              Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                @BeeKind said:

                I'm currently micro-dosing just starting out and I'm losing weight. I'm hoping to break old habits and learn new ones so I don't have to depend on it to maintain my weight.

                Are you on 2.5 or less, or 5? Most everyone loses weight at first. When I was at 5, I loved it, wish I had stayed there longer. Now, as I'm drawing down (currently 6), I know 5 will not be the same. I wish you the best of everything. Stay with it!

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                @Eleanor forgot to say of GLP-3

                Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                • E Eleanor

                  @WesEqualshXc Are you tapering off to zero?

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                  @Eleanor said:

                  @WesEqualshXc Are you tapering off to zero?

                  Not right now but yeah I will be.

                  “Research your own experience.
                  Absorb what is useful.
                  Reject what is useless.
                  Add what is essentially your own.”

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                    My INTENT is to taper down Reta as slowly as I went up, while tapering up calories at the same time until I find maintenance. With that said, I have incorporated consistent meal prep, whole foods, hard weight training and other disciplines into my life that were not there before. I plan to keep those until I drop dead somewhere in the future as a fit, healthy, old man. God willing that will allow me to keep the weight off. I think the key is my "goal" isn't to hit a target weight. My goal is to be fit and stay that way the rest of my life. Too many hit their target weight and completely quit everything they were doing to get there. Bad news that.

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                      My INTENT is to taper down Reta as slowly as I went up, while tapering up calories at the same time until I find maintenance. With that said, I have incorporated consistent meal prep, whole foods, hard weight training and other disciplines into my life that were not there before. I plan to keep those until I drop dead somewhere in the future as a fit, healthy, old man. God willing that will allow me to keep the weight off. I think the key is my "goal" isn't to hit a target weight. My goal is to be fit and stay that way the rest of my life. Too many hit their target weight and completely quit everything they were doing to get there. Bad news that.

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                      @jamiegallien said:

                      My INTENT is to taper down Reta as slowly as I went up, while tapering up calories at the same time until I find maintenance. With that said, I have incorporated consistent meal prep, whole foods, hard weight training and other disciplines into my life that were not there before. I plan to keep those until I drop dead somewhere in the future as a fit, healthy, old man. God willing that will allow me to keep the weight off. I think the key is my "goal" isn't to hit a target weight. My goal is to be fit and stay that way the rest of my life. Too many hit their target weight and completely quit everything they were doing to get there. Bad news that.

                      "May you live a long and healthy life, and die quickly." - Chinese proverb

                      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                        Definately my Reta cycle. I eventually plan to taper down and micro dose my way off. I already have my foundation in place. Gained enough muscle, diet significantly changed for the better. No more goyslop. More of the right nutrition. Four months in and you become sensitive and less tolerating to foods that have been hurting you all along. Even my kitchen has changed to make a healthy meal easier to produce.

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                          @jamiegallien said:

                          My INTENT is to taper down Reta as slowly as I went up, while tapering up calories at the same time until I find maintenance. With that said, I have incorporated consistent meal prep, whole foods, hard weight training and other disciplines into my life that were not there before. I plan to keep those until I drop dead somewhere in the future as a fit, healthy, old man. God willing that will allow me to keep the weight off. I think the key is my "goal" isn't to hit a target weight. My goal is to be fit and stay that way the rest of my life. Too many hit their target weight and completely quit everything they were doing to get there. Bad news that.

                          "May you live a long and healthy life, and die quickly." - Chinese proverb

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                          @Eleanor Right, Reta is awesome!

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                              I adjust my dose as I think appropriate. I am currently taking 6mg/week and am losing weight(desired) but will likely lower my dose as I approach my absolute bottom. I don’t necessarily plan to stop taking Tirz completely, but I have read a fair amount about ‘micro-dosing’ whether that means taking 2.5mg a week or less, or only taking a shot every couple of weeks, or some alternative.

                              I am thinking that Tirz or a successor(NA-931?) will be on the menu forever in some manner unless there is a strong indicator to the contrary. The health benefits seem too undeniable to not continue taking it at some level, and since I am going to be taking statins and other meds forever, I might as well do the best I can.

                              FWIW, I do not like taking any meds at all, but I have come around to the thinking that if it keeps me healthy, capable, and alive, and I can afford it, I might as well. I’d rather spend a small fortune staying healthy now, than a large fortune staying alive in a bed 30 years from now.

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                                I adjust my dose as I think appropriate. I am currently taking 6mg/week and am losing weight(desired) but will likely lower my dose as I approach my absolute bottom. I don’t necessarily plan to stop taking Tirz completely, but I have read a fair amount about ‘micro-dosing’ whether that means taking 2.5mg a week or less, or only taking a shot every couple of weeks, or some alternative.

                                I am thinking that Tirz or a successor(NA-931?) will be on the menu forever in some manner unless there is a strong indicator to the contrary. The health benefits seem too undeniable to not continue taking it at some level, and since I am going to be taking statins and other meds forever, I might as well do the best I can.

                                FWIW, I do not like taking any meds at all, but I have come around to the thinking that if it keeps me healthy, capable, and alive, and I can afford it, I might as well. I’d rather spend a small fortune staying healthy now, than a large fortune staying alive in a bed 30 years from now.

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                                @ResearchCat I pretty much feel the same way, except for the living for 30 more years; I don't want to be 100 and P&P all over myself. Then, there's the deep political and financial shit that everyone intuitively knows is coming shortly; wading through that at an older age is not a good thing, esp. when family and friends have all gone before you.

                                It could be that 2.5 Tirz might not be sufficient for me, IDK, but surely not more than 5 (on 5.5 now) and it could be a different pep or stem cells available by then. Who knows.

                                Will have to study up on NA-931.

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                                  Seems to be a necessity for modern beasts. My girlfriend's big brown beaver gets the stink-eye from other semi-aquatic rodents when needle sports are mentioned. The stupid thing is that they are getting wrinkly, bent over, and hobbling around more and more each day. And the beaver feels like 20 years old. All you need is one visit to the vet's office for a checkup and see how bad the customers look and how poorly they experience life.
                                  No doubt that this is a modern necessity to live an enjoyable life. So, probably reduce to 1 mg per week of Reta when a target weight is achieved.

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                                    To me it isn't necessarily about the quantity of life. We all have an expiration date and it could be in a car wreck later today for me. I am after the quality of life while I am still around. If I get some quality longevity too, I'll take it.

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                                      Seems to be a necessity for modern beasts. My girlfriend's big brown beaver gets the stink-eye from other semi-aquatic rodents when needle sports are mentioned. The stupid thing is that they are getting wrinkly, bent over, and hobbling around more and more each day. And the beaver feels like 20 years old. All you need is one visit to the vet's office for a checkup and see how bad the customers look and how poorly they experience life.
                                      No doubt that this is a modern necessity to live an enjoyable life. So, probably reduce to 1 mg per week of Reta when a target weight is achieved.

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                                      @kenhnsy

                                      Hahaha - I think we’d all like to see your girlfriends ummmm - pet one day.

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                                        I’ve passed my original goal weight using Reta now but have reset it slightly lower for a few reasons.
                                        Once I’m a kilo or so off it (which might take a couple weeks or a month or so - don’t really care now) I’m going to trial & error what needs to be done to drop down to the minimum dosing to keep the other benefits of Reta without necessarily keeping the weight dropping.

                                        I’m thinking the best way is to do it progressively in a similar way but in reverse to the standard 4 weeks on a dose before dropping again while monitoring everything I possibly can.

                                        I’m hoping i can get away with something around the 1-2mg mark but who knows - it might be zero or 4 - whatever it is it is.
                                        Either way even if I need to stay on it for what’s left of my life - pfffftttt - still better than living the way I was - by a fucking mile.

                                        One thing with Reta for me is that it has not stopped my appetite one iota - I can basically eat as much as I want when I want - especially with regards to the physical side of it - it has however lowered the “food noise”🙄 with regards to the snacking etc.
                                        I’m guessing it has something to do with being a diabetic 🤷‍♂️- as it didn’t even work at all for me until I hit 6mg as well as binning all my other prescription drugs I was on including insulin at the same time - that’s my theory anyway 🤣.

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                                          I've heard of very few who have not regained their weight, sometimes more, once they stop Semi/Tirz/Reta. There are some that claim to not have regained the weight, or a large portion of it but no proof to back it up that I know of. It's possible; I just don't know any of them.

                                          Most of us here at least have the notion that we're probably going to be taking weight loss peptides for the rest of our lives, with the only other choice being micro-dosing, instead of higher doses.

                                          The 'therapeutic dose' of Tirz is 5mg, therefore, IMO, anything under that is micro-dosing. I know lots of experts are saying 2.5 or less are the levels, but that doesn't make sense to me. Whatever.

                                          I'm at 6 Tirz/1 Survo right now and after a month-long stall after dropping 30#'s, my weight is starting to drop again due to the Survo, albeit slowly. Think it's going to be this way for the next 20 lbs that I need to lose, unless I really exercise hard (Not likely)

                                          Anyone else considering micro-dose? Doesn't mean you have to give up the other peps, just the ones for weight loss.

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                                          @Eleanor micro dosing? I didnt know pc partied like that. Haha. But seriously to answer the question yes. Probably get down to 2mg and run a kit of 20s as long as long as they last.

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