Peptide Test message about Hospira pricing
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Well they got me. Ordered 3 just to have a supply moving forward. Had my first bad experience the other day. Reconstituted with something other than Hospira and it turned the peptide to sludge.
@cc4part41 said:
Well they got me. Ordered 3 just to have a supply moving forward. Had my first bad experience the other day. Reconstituted with something other than Hospira and it turned the peptide to sludge.
So lets think about that for a second. What peptide did you order that turned to sludge? And how much was that vial that was ruined?
Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes
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@cc4part41 said:
Well they got me. Ordered 3 just to have a supply moving forward. Had my first bad experience the other day. Reconstituted with something other than Hospira and it turned the peptide to sludge.
So lets think about that for a second. What peptide did you order that turned to sludge? And how much was that vial that was ruined?
@cc4part41 said:
Well they got me. Ordered 3 just to have a supply moving forward. Had my first bad experience the other day. Reconstituted with something other than Hospira and it turned the peptide to sludge.
So lets think about that for a second. What peptide did you order that turned to sludge? And how much was that vial that was ruined?
Wasn't that my point? Live and learn. Appreciate your helpful feedback.
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@cc4part41 said:
Well they got me. Ordered 3 just to have a supply moving forward. Had my first bad experience the other day. Reconstituted with something other than Hospira and it turned the peptide to sludge.
So lets think about that for a second. What peptide did you order that turned to sludge? And how much was that vial that was ruined?
Wasn't that my point? Live and learn. Appreciate your helpful feedback.
@cc4part41 well what was reconned?
I’ve used hospira, retail vendors BAC and individual plastic amps of BAC. Haven’t had an issue with sludge.
If I bought a single vial of peptides and a vendors brand water to recon and try it out I’m going back complain to them if it’s not clear.
But since then I only use hospira for 6 weeks and store in fridge.
We’re to the point where your 10-12mg of Reta from a kit costs less than water. That’s crazy and can’t stand. I’m going to other brands not giving a monopoly to them.
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@Eleanor
Oh…
I just use my Hospira with everything and it works. So I never looked into it."If it works, don't fix it."
@Eleanor
I agree with just using Hospira. It's the one constant that I don't want to change. -
@Eleanor
I agree with just using Hospira. It's the one constant that I don't want to change.@CapmanCrunch I use it too and I agree but we are just supporting Pfizer the very company who is doing everything they can to ban our use of peptides. So if an alternative that can be trusted comes along I will be using them. It makes us all pretty hypocritical me included to push the Hospira narrative.
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Daro just sent out that Genetek back for testing, it looks like it came back good. He sees it… I never used it. Pricing is OK, not great. I think I still paid less for Hospira, but who knows what that will cost in the future
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Just saw this on Glaciar. Haven't ordered from them in a while, but was looking to try DSIP before I go to my usual EZ for single vials.
Reconstitution Warranty
Exchanges for reconstitution-related issues are only honored when our bacteriostatic water is used. Our water is independently 7X-tested for sterility and integrity before shipping. If a third-party water source was used, the product is not eligible for our Exchange Policy. -
Daro just sent out that Genetek back for testing, it looks like it came back good. He sees it… I never used it. Pricing is OK, not great. I think I still paid less for Hospira, but who knows what that will cost in the future
@Commander How did you get Genetek water finally? Contacted them directly or ordered from Indiamart?
I would guess it would be good. India is a big pharma hub and many Asian pep users use that brand according to Reddit posts.
BTW it looks like there's a Genetek US too. I was talking about those small ampoules one the Indian brand.
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Very interesting, is this the one your talking about https://genetekusa.com/product/bacteriostatic-water/ I like how they have 10ml vials and 30ml vials.
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Very interesting, is this the one your talking about https://genetekusa.com/product/bacteriostatic-water/ I like how they have 10ml vials and 30ml vials.
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@Stevepep But look at their prices and COAs?
pH above 6 already. H BAC sits around 5.5 that's a regulatory requirement. And Genetek prices are in H BAC range. What's the point in picking these over H BAC then?
High pH messes up pH sensitive peps and that explains why researchers often get a sludge right after recon.
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@Commander How did you get Genetek water finally? Contacted them directly or ordered from Indiamart?
I would guess it would be good. India is a big pharma hub and many Asian pep users use that brand according to Reddit posts.
BTW it looks like there's a Genetek US too. I was talking about those small ampoules one the Indian brand.
@pep_researcher
I didn’t buy any. Daro Pep has the plastic ampules. As far as these https://genetekusa.com/product/bacteriostatic-water/ go, those prices are higher than Hospira... -
@Stevepep But look at their prices and COAs?
pH above 6 already. H BAC sits around 5.5 that's a regulatory requirement. And Genetek prices are in H BAC range. What's the point in picking these over H BAC then?
High pH messes up pH sensitive peps and that explains why researchers often get a sludge right after recon.
@pep_researcher I didn't do any research on it. I only care because Hospira is Pfizer, and like I said, it kills me to support them when they are trying to destroy this market. It makes me feel like a hypocrite. I got Lambda just to test and tested the pH, and it was 5.8. TDS 0, Brix came back around 9 pct Alcohol content. Brix can be slightly off; there is a conversion that they do, which I have no clue about. I haven't tried it at all to pin or constitute. I have to post the pictures I took at some point in that other thread. Gonna do the same with Parrox. Not sure if this is helpful or not, but it cost me nothing to have these types of tests done.
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@pep_researcher I didn't do any research on it. I only care because Hospira is Pfizer, and like I said, it kills me to support them when they are trying to destroy this market. It makes me feel like a hypocrite. I got Lambda just to test and tested the pH, and it was 5.8. TDS 0, Brix came back around 9 pct Alcohol content. Brix can be slightly off; there is a conversion that they do, which I have no clue about. I haven't tried it at all to pin or constitute. I have to post the pictures I took at some point in that other thread. Gonna do the same with Parrox. Not sure if this is helpful or not, but it cost me nothing to have these types of tests done.
they are trying to destroy this market.
I don't think Pfizer cares about RUO market. The prices have skyrocketed because there is a shortage, due to a lot of illiterates flooding this space and ordering crates to throw away entire bottle after 28 days by using 2ml to recon Tirz vial.
H BAC is available only on prescription. When those things go on shortages the distributors have obligations to first satisfy demands of health facilities, and de-prioritize any other fringe research demands.
Then the middle men ration like Peptide Test or jack up prices to milk the shortage.
Don't overthink, I think Pfizer is a huge multinational corp. RUO is still a pretty small space in that comparison.
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they are trying to destroy this market.
I don't think Pfizer cares about RUO market. The prices have skyrocketed because there is a shortage, due to a lot of illiterates flooding this space and ordering crates to throw away entire bottle after 28 days by using 2ml to recon Tirz vial.
H BAC is available only on prescription. When those things go on shortages the distributors have obligations to first satisfy demands of health facilities, and de-prioritize any other fringe research demands.
Then the middle men ration like Peptide Test or jack up prices to milk the shortage.
Don't overthink, I think Pfizer is a huge multinational corp. RUO is still a pretty small space in that comparison.
@pep_researcher I get it, it's a drop in the bucket to them. To me its not about the BAC. It's about the lobbyists who pay millions to try to kill peptides. A healthy population is bad for their business. I would rather not support them even if our market is a tiny part of their earnings. I also don't want to take an unnecessary risk, so there's that.
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@pep_researcher I get it, it's a drop in the bucket to them. To me its not about the BAC. It's about the lobbyists who pay millions to try to kill peptides. A healthy population is bad for their business. I would rather not support them even if our market is a tiny part of their earnings. I also don't want to take an unnecessary risk, so there's that.
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Message received from Peptide Test. Let the panic buying begin!
Hi everyone,
We want to give you advance notice of some upcoming disruptions in the market for Hospira bacteriostatic water. We are being told by our wholesalers that Pfizer is in the process of another large price increase which may be as high as 65%. Because of that our pricing will very likely be going up in the near future.
This isn't a decision we're happy about. We've built this business around trying to offer the best available pricing on legitimate Hospira products and keeping other lab supplies available and fairly priced as well. We even recently lowered our ground shipping rates to help smaller buyers. That focus hasn't changed, but unfortunately this pending increase is simply a result of what Pfizer is charging us.
To give you fair notice and time to plan, all of our current BAC water inventory will stay at the current price until it sells out. Once that stock is gone, it is likely that new pricing will take effect. If you've been planning to order, now is a good time to do so.
To make sure everyone has a fair chance at current pricing while supplies last, we're limiting orders to 25 vials per customer per day.
We are constantly checking pricing in the wholesale market and doing everything within our power to mitigate this situation.
@pep_researcher - I was ready for some so I went ahead and ordered 5 @$15 from PT with the free shipping which will hold me over for a while. I also use Hospira NaLc BAC for some peps and Genetek BAC (India). I see a lot of folks going with Lambda, but not enough of a gap from Hospira price for me. Genetek has been excellent and cheap as chips.
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they are trying to destroy this market.
I don't think Pfizer cares about RUO market. The prices have skyrocketed because there is a shortage, due to a lot of illiterates flooding this space and ordering crates to throw away entire bottle after 28 days by using 2ml to recon Tirz vial.
H BAC is available only on prescription. When those things go on shortages the distributors have obligations to first satisfy demands of health facilities, and de-prioritize any other fringe research demands.
Then the middle men ration like Peptide Test or jack up prices to milk the shortage.
Don't overthink, I think Pfizer is a huge multinational corp. RUO is still a pretty small space in that comparison.
@pep_researcher And just like that, prices are back to where they were on Peptide Test, imagine that.
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