Every Vendor I have Tried Plus Apps, Bloodwork etc
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Thanks for the additional suggestions.
One thing I forgot to mention -- Label your pens/vials/etc. It is well worth the time and hassle. My only regret is that I bought the Niimbot B1 to save some funds instead of the M1.
@coondogesq I did the same thing and just got my M2…..now there are labels on everything.
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@peptidelab Just downloaded it - Very nice! Thank you for sharing!
@Canineriot great, do not hesitate to email with any questions or need any help.
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Ok, this is my journey. I hope this helps people not make the same mistakes.
Pre Peptide Critic: Newbie who didn't know sh*t
Pure Labe Peptides - Fake COA's. Fake carbon copy of Hospira. Bad reaction over a week of pain
Peptide Solutions - Felt nothing from the products Reta included. Fake COA's
Found Peptide Critic - Everything Changed
Mile High - Great Products, but has Kovera labs on some
Glacier - Also Great but all Kovera
Southern Amino - Great, my go-to for what EZ doesn't carry
EZ and Nexaph - My absolute go-to. Pricing and product consistency are top-notch
Crush - High hopes, but their inventory control is a joke, and the constant marketing ploys have turned me off. Products are good, though.Grey
LN and LI Peptide - Great until they ripped everyone off
GroupBuyKits - waiting for the first order, but Randy says no go and that's enough for me. Update group buy list is a scamLets all share!!!! and help more people
GroupBuyKits - waiting for the first order, but Randy says no go and that's enough for me
Yeah that's why I never jumped on it. First couple of months on Reddit forums that's all I read and everyone ridiculed stateside resellers. But it was much less headache.
I did get Nexa name from Reddit and Glp1forum but I confused it with GBs or direct buys. Now I know better, thanks to this forum.
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Roughly 18 months of grey products, and the vendors on here have eye-popping pricing from what I am used to! I’ve had several group buys that went well, actually about 90% worked out fine. Including the last one with great independent COAs and kits of T60 at $120. Numerous TG vendors and independent sellers with excellent products for 1/10th these prices. I know even these prices are better than compounders or actual pharma, but still very high.
My go-to grey vendors have been Lucy at HXNT, PGB, PBJ and Amino Raws.
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@Stevepep lookup "peptidelab" in the App Store, take pro for a spin, there is a 1 week trial, but I'll be happy to make it much longer for you to have plenty of time to explore it, feel free to msg or email me, just mention PeptideCritic.
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@Canineriot great, do not hesitate to email with any questions or need any help.
@peptidelab Will do, thanks! I just started setting protocols and such yesterday but everything looks really darn solid. This is an incredible tool!
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I haven’t seen the cons with Group Buy kits? Can someone drop a link. First order is on the way…
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Hi just found this group. Going to look into EZ and Nexaph. Has anyone tried the peptides from ClearBatch? They are a B2B company. Slightly more expensive but conduct 3rd party testing for Purity, endotoxins, Heavy metals and sterility.
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I had been doing the order grey market by the box, getting them tested, and usually being disappointed. Some were good, like Yuansense Tech. Some were mediocre, like Vertex Bio, and some were ugly, like Nanjing Bio.
I decided it just wasn't worth the effort to save a few bucks, and ordered from Northline Labs for a while, until I found Southern Aminos. For the price and peace of mind, that one is a standout.
Let's take 1 20mg Tirz for example. From grey China, about $125 to $150 a box if you include shipping. So about $15 per vial. Then you include testing, and let's call that $250 if you have the Endo done with the Purity and ID. So now we're at $400 for 9 vials. That's $44 per vial.
I just bought three vials 20mg Tirz from SA for $165, or $55 per vial. Is it really worth all the effort for $11? IMHO not.
I also have been looking at Quest Molecular Peptides. https://qmpeptides.com/ Good prices, excellent testing QA, and quick response and shipping. That's one to look at also.. -
I had been doing the order grey market by the box, getting them tested, and usually being disappointed. Some were good, like Yuansense Tech. Some were mediocre, like Vertex Bio, and some were ugly, like Nanjing Bio.
I decided it just wasn't worth the effort to save a few bucks, and ordered from Northline Labs for a while, until I found Southern Aminos. For the price and peace of mind, that one is a standout.
Let's take 1 20mg Tirz for example. From grey China, about $125 to $150 a box if you include shipping. So about $15 per vial. Then you include testing, and let's call that $250 if you have the Endo done with the Purity and ID. So now we're at $400 for 9 vials. That's $44 per vial.
I just bought three vials 20mg Tirz from SA for $165, or $55 per vial. Is it really worth all the effort for $11? IMHO not.
I also have been looking at Quest Molecular Peptides. https://qmpeptides.com/ Good prices, excellent testing QA, and quick response and shipping. That's one to look at also..@mikebricker I agree I don't mind paying extra to have all the testing done prior to me purchasing.. I will look at companies you recommend. Vial of 20mg retatrutide is £95 with UK company who has conducted all 3rd party testing with Janoshik. Thats what I liked about Clearbatch - full panel of 3rd party testing completed on their products.
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I'm a relative newbie researcher. I lurked a lot of places just gathering information for quite a while before I found Peptide Critic videos and this site. The candid discussions, without any real perceived sales pitch, confirmed that the research journey is a personal one and it should be defined within one's own comfort zone from the information available. While "published" protocols can provide some guidance, the real information comes from the personal perspective and experiences of others (both positive and negative). This discourse here has allowed me to more comfortably adjust my personal research plans to where I am comfortable rather than blindly proceeding with something I just found on the internet.
To the extent it is helpful, here is what I've found most useful:
Tracker: Smart Peptide Tracker - (online, iOS and Google) - it keeps me focused and contains the tracking tools I needed. The developer is constantly improving it and incorporating user feedback.
Bloodwork: Vitals Vault - I considered Rhythm/Siphox/Function but for the tests I wanted to run and the timing, it was the most economical for me.
Vendors: I have tried several as I was getting comfortable in the space. At this point, I generally look to the following (though I am becoming more critical of the labs used by each to better inform/direct my purchases):
Kits:
Individual Vials:
- Instant Peptides, Southern Aminos, Peptidology, Peptira
I have also tried Solyn, Ion Peptides, and Puratek and had good results and would consider them again.
I have even dipped my toe in the grey with Peptegriddy (and we will see how that goes).
Finally, PENS, PENS and more PENS are the way to go! (FWIW, I like the V4 without the cap best ). Regardless of any residual product lost, I am much more comfortable with the consistency of dosing measurement and efficiency using PENS. Also, the learning of using different pen needles (5mm for most and 8mm for NAD/Glut) from this forum made a huge difference in the comfort of administration.
Thanks to all!
Tracker: Smart Peptide Tracker - (online, iOS and Google) - it keeps me focused and contains the tracking tools I needed. The developer is constantly improving it and incorporating user feedback.
This is the tracker I use as well, it has so many features that I haven't had the time to dig into yet. I really like that it's a one time purchase as well. Great inventory features.
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I'm going to order from Nexpah based on the kind reviewsand just wanted to double check that GXP-2 is Tirzepaptide right? Would Reta be a better pick? I've taken Tirzepaptide with some success.
Also, what are people's experiences with their Sermorelin?
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I'm going to order from Nexpah based on the kind reviewsand just wanted to double check that GXP-2 is Tirzepaptide right? Would Reta be a better pick? I've taken Tirzepaptide with some success.
Also, what are people's experiences with their Sermorelin?
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@slyger you can order 1 vial of the same molecules (they sell the same batches, batch numbers, COA of tests are the same) from https://ameanopeptides.com/ while they have 30% off. Try and see if it work for you before buying a kit of 10.
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@vpeptides like I said, I've used Tirzepaptide before with success so I was looking at a bulk buy. I'll check out your link though. Would Reta be a better bet for fat loss?
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@vpeptides like I said, I've used Tirzepaptide before with success so I was looking at a bulk buy. I'll check out your link though. Would Reta be a better bet for fat loss?
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good thread, figured I'd throw ours in since people are comparing apps. we make Dose Track
it's got a built-in recon calculator tied to vial inventory, so it tracks remaining volume per vial as you log and alerts you when you're running low. blend support logs each component separately. dosing schedules, injection site rotation, and bloodwork tracking too, you can upload a lab PDF and it extracts and trends your markers
dosetrack.app, iOS and android. code OLIVER14 gets 2 weeks free on yearly if anyone wants to try it. if something's broken or missing lmk here, goes right to the dev
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When I started my journey...
Evolvebiopep.com was my go to.
Then I found Forge-Science and they were by far the best for singles.
Then they sold to Exceedenhancement.com and they were great for singles.
Then I found out about kits and I started ordering from www.Nexaph.com and www.Heliabiochem.com and used them both back and forth. Nexaph was seemingly a lypholizer doin their own thing out of China and Helia is always delivering Uther and Lobster product so I liked that.
Then I found Telegram and went deep into the Gray and order direct from various vendors and get in on group buys from time to time. I stopped hording kits because there is no need for multiple years of product because something new will likely be out in a year.
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I had been doing the order grey market by the box, getting them tested, and usually being disappointed. Some were good, like Yuansense Tech. Some were mediocre, like Vertex Bio, and some were ugly, like Nanjing Bio.
I decided it just wasn't worth the effort to save a few bucks, and ordered from Northline Labs for a while, until I found Southern Aminos. For the price and peace of mind, that one is a standout.
Let's take 1 20mg Tirz for example. From grey China, about $125 to $150 a box if you include shipping. So about $15 per vial. Then you include testing, and let's call that $250 if you have the Endo done with the Purity and ID. So now we're at $400 for 9 vials. That's $44 per vial.
I just bought three vials 20mg Tirz from SA for $165, or $55 per vial. Is it really worth all the effort for $11? IMHO not.
I also have been looking at Quest Molecular Peptides. https://qmpeptides.com/ Good prices, excellent testing QA, and quick response and shipping. That's one to look at also..@mikebricker what did you think about the quality and effectiveness of northline labs
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