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  • ResearchCatR Offline
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    ResearchCat
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    The labs for my annual physical had a higher copay than my annual Function subscription, which includes two full sets of labs much larger than what my doctor ordered.

    Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

    If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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    • NewenoughN Offline
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      @jtcjeff @researchcat I'll look into that, thanks. Currently a full panel of ordered labs only cost me a $30 copay. I'll just hang for now, feel great even on the 60mg.

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      • FalcF Falc

        I agree with starting low, everybody is going to be different, and it will take a little while to get it dialed in. In the beginning I would get the bloodwork done quarterly. I've known several people who started with telehealth and started to high and had to deal with some side effects. I do test-c, 100mg a week, eod and that is my sweet spot. I use a pen with a 29g .5" needle. I've been lucky and found a local clinic and can get it compounded locally. My PPC wouldn't even discuss it, even know my levels were pretty low, "it happens when we get older". I am tempted to buy a kit from QSC and see if I can get it tested.

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        @Falc said:
        I am tempted to buy a kit from QSC and see if I can get it tested.

        Ive seen a few GB's recently with QSC supplied Test-C that provide both qualitative (GCMS) and quantitative (HPLC) testing from Jano that prove no EO, which is good.

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          @falc I just remembered that I picked up a home test kit called Roidtest, was like $25, that provides a positive result, and type of Test (c, s, etc) based on color. But doesn't give Sterility of course.

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          • NewenoughN Newenough

            @falc I just remembered that I picked up a home test kit called Roidtest, was like $25, that provides a positive result, and type of Test (c, s, etc) based on color. But doesn't give Sterility of course.

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            @Newenough said:

            Roidtest

            Never knew tests like this were available, I'll have to look into them. Thanks for the info!

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              @falc https://roidtest.com/

              I got the single test kit.

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              • quicksilver80Q quicksilver80

                This would be a good question for the meso forum. Not discounting any information or people here. Just thats their specialty. Just make sure to follow the rules because they dont mess around.

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                @quicksilver80 LOL... so I signed up on the Meso forum. Wow... that place is CRAZY! I could feel the jacked energy through my screen. Had 3 dudes telling me what I should do and change immediately... without even asking why I was there or what my goal was. LOL . Crazy place.

                Got my Test. results back. ugh. Total 179, Free+SHGB+LH is all messed up. So i definitely need to do something, just havent decided what yet.

                Still only have found QSC for grey supply. If any of you have another option I would appreciate a message or DM.

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                • J JtCjEfF

                  @quicksilver80 LOL... so I signed up on the Meso forum. Wow... that place is CRAZY! I could feel the jacked energy through my screen. Had 3 dudes telling me what I should do and change immediately... without even asking why I was there or what my goal was. LOL . Crazy place.

                  Got my Test. results back. ugh. Total 179, Free+SHGB+LH is all messed up. So i definitely need to do something, just havent decided what yet.

                  Still only have found QSC for grey supply. If any of you have another option I would appreciate a message or DM.

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                  @JtCjEfF i just imagined Pinocchio from shrek yelling im a real girl when i saw those numbers. 😂 Just messing. Glad youre working on it. Just a few months and you should be feeling night and day better.

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                  • quicksilver80Q quicksilver80

                    @JtCjEfF i just imagined Pinocchio from shrek yelling im a real girl when i saw those numbers. 😂 Just messing. Glad youre working on it. Just a few months and you should be feeling night and day better.

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                    @quicksilver80 😂🖕

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                    • J JtCjEfF

                      @quicksilver80 😂🖕

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                      @JtCjEfF i was in the 200s (thanks insomnia and depression) in my late teens early twentys. The biggest change is the weight loss. Feel like i have unlimited stamina now. Still take naps after a hard day but im so much more alert its unreal. And i sleep like im dead. Haha

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                      • quicksilver80Q quicksilver80

                        @JtCjEfF i was in the 200s (thanks insomnia and depression) in my late teens early twentys. The biggest change is the weight loss. Feel like i have unlimited stamina now. Still take naps after a hard day but im so much more alert its unreal. And i sleep like im dead. Haha

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                        @quicksilver80 This is after TRT?

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                        • J JtCjEfF

                          @quicksilver80 This is after TRT?

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                          @JtCjEfF nah rs lost 40 naturally. Then another 75 testing reta. Thats really what made my difference. Rs had the androgel around that time and all it made him was agitated. Unfortunately you have to change your whole life to fully take advantage of it. Ill keep up with blood tests and eventually might have to hop on rs 40s

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                          • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

                            @myb No, I haven’t gone down that rabbit hole yet. I was really trying to avoid it, but thinking about trying enclomiphene soon. Might try T if enclomiphene isn’t right.

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                            @ResearchCat I initially started with enclomephine and switched to old reliable TCyp when I read about side effects.

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                            • J JtCjEfF

                              @quicksilver80 LOL... so I signed up on the Meso forum. Wow... that place is CRAZY! I could feel the jacked energy through my screen. Had 3 dudes telling me what I should do and change immediately... without even asking why I was there or what my goal was. LOL . Crazy place.

                              Got my Test. results back. ugh. Total 179, Free+SHGB+LH is all messed up. So i definitely need to do something, just havent decided what yet.

                              Still only have found QSC for grey supply. If any of you have another option I would appreciate a message or DM.

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                              @JtCjEfF said:

                              @quicksilver80 LOL... so I signed up on the Meso forum. Wow... that place is CRAZY! I could feel the jacked energy through my screen. Had 3 dudes telling me what I should do and change immediately... without even asking why I was there or what my goal was. LOL . Crazy place.

                              Got my Test. results back. ugh. Total 179, Free+SHGB+LH is all messed up. So i definitely need to do something, just havent decided what yet.

                              Still only have found QSC for grey supply. If any of you have another option I would appreciate a message or DM.

                              @jtcjeff I sent you a DM.

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                                If you're new to TRT you might want to consider telehealth at least until you're sure how the TRT is impacting your body. I used matrix reformed. Of course UGL will always be cheaper but you need to know what you're doing with UGL with respect to dosing and bloodwork.

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                                • B bangkokiscool

                                  If you're new to TRT you might want to consider telehealth at least until you're sure how the TRT is impacting your body. I used matrix reformed. Of course UGL will always be cheaper but you need to know what you're doing with UGL with respect to dosing and bloodwork.

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                                  @bangkokiscool pretty sure this is the route. I’m gonna go for the first several months at least. I think I’m favoring Alpha MD at this point, unless anybody has experience with them or another person that would sway me to somebody else.

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                                  • B bangkokiscool

                                    If you're new to TRT you might want to consider telehealth at least until you're sure how the TRT is impacting your body. I used matrix reformed. Of course UGL will always be cheaper but you need to know what you're doing with UGL with respect to dosing and bloodwork.

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                                    @bangkokiscool Absolutely agreed. When you first start you’re gonna want to see bloodwork every few weeks to see how you’re body is reacting so you can adjust dose as necessary.

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                                    • MyBM MyB

                                      @researchcat didn’t you use to do HIMS or something similar? What did that run?

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                                      @MyB Just to throw a data point out there, I talked to my cardiologist yesterday and to my surprise, she greenlit adding TRT or enclomiphene ‘to bring me to natural replacement levels.’ I thought she was going to poo-poo anything of the sort, but she seemed fine with both low dose tadalafil and TRT, as long as I am not taking too much - which she didn’t quantify.

                                      Aside from making me take statins, I might actually like this new doctor. She wants one more test and then doesn’t want to talk to me again until a new med for LP(a) is available.

                                      Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                                      If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                                      • H HockeyRat

                                        @bangkokiscool Absolutely agreed. When you first start you’re gonna want to see bloodwork every few weeks to see how you’re body is reacting so you can adjust dose as necessary.

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                                        @HockeyRat I had my intake appointment this week and signed up with AlphaMD. Surprisingly, they don’t want new lab work for 90 days. He set me on Test. Cyp. At 140mg a week, split into 70mg doses.

                                        I’m genuinely interested to see how the next 3 months goes.

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                                          Nuncles
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                                          I liked the split dosing weekly but unfortunately my levels had gotten way too high. An example of why I will also suggest regular bloodwork. My PCP told me to inject every 10 days instead of reducing the dosage. I didn't disagree because less injections were appealing to me at that point. I guess it works OK but the the spilt dosing kept the levels more consistent.

                                          Also, just an FYI, if you end up going with a PCP and insurance, the 200mg/mL is less expensive and easier to get from pharmacies than 100mg/mL. I pay about $1.77/dose but I do recognize that the cost varies by insurance coverage.

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