TRT questions
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@myb No, I haven’t gone down that rabbit hole yet. I was really trying to avoid it, but thinking about trying enclomiphene soon. Might try T if enclomiphene isn’t right.
@ResearchCat I initially started with enclomephine and switched to old reliable TCyp when I read about side effects.
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@quicksilver80 LOL... so I signed up on the Meso forum. Wow... that place is CRAZY! I could feel the jacked energy through my screen. Had 3 dudes telling me what I should do and change immediately... without even asking why I was there or what my goal was. LOL . Crazy place.
Got my Test. results back. ugh. Total 179, Free+SHGB+LH is all messed up. So i definitely need to do something, just havent decided what yet.
Still only have found QSC for grey supply. If any of you have another option I would appreciate a message or DM.
@quicksilver80 LOL... so I signed up on the Meso forum. Wow... that place is CRAZY! I could feel the jacked energy through my screen. Had 3 dudes telling me what I should do and change immediately... without even asking why I was there or what my goal was. LOL . Crazy place.
Got my Test. results back. ugh. Total 179, Free+SHGB+LH is all messed up. So i definitely need to do something, just havent decided what yet.
Still only have found QSC for grey supply. If any of you have another option I would appreciate a message or DM.
@jtcjeff I sent you a DM.
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If you're new to TRT you might want to consider telehealth at least until you're sure how the TRT is impacting your body. I used matrix reformed. Of course UGL will always be cheaper but you need to know what you're doing with UGL with respect to dosing and bloodwork.
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If you're new to TRT you might want to consider telehealth at least until you're sure how the TRT is impacting your body. I used matrix reformed. Of course UGL will always be cheaper but you need to know what you're doing with UGL with respect to dosing and bloodwork.
@bangkokiscool pretty sure this is the route. I’m gonna go for the first several months at least. I think I’m favoring Alpha MD at this point, unless anybody has experience with them or another person that would sway me to somebody else.
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If you're new to TRT you might want to consider telehealth at least until you're sure how the TRT is impacting your body. I used matrix reformed. Of course UGL will always be cheaper but you need to know what you're doing with UGL with respect to dosing and bloodwork.
@bangkokiscool Absolutely agreed. When you first start you’re gonna want to see bloodwork every few weeks to see how you’re body is reacting so you can adjust dose as necessary.
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@researchcat didn’t you use to do HIMS or something similar? What did that run?
@MyB Just to throw a data point out there, I talked to my cardiologist yesterday and to my surprise, she greenlit adding TRT or enclomiphene ‘to bring me to natural replacement levels.’ I thought she was going to poo-poo anything of the sort, but she seemed fine with both low dose tadalafil and TRT, as long as I am not taking too much - which she didn’t quantify.
Aside from making me take statins, I might actually like this new doctor. She wants one more test and then doesn’t want to talk to me again until a new med for LP(a) is available.
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@bangkokiscool Absolutely agreed. When you first start you’re gonna want to see bloodwork every few weeks to see how you’re body is reacting so you can adjust dose as necessary.
@HockeyRat I had my intake appointment this week and signed up with AlphaMD. Surprisingly, they don’t want new lab work for 90 days. He set me on Test. Cyp. At 140mg a week, split into 70mg doses.
I’m genuinely interested to see how the next 3 months goes.
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I liked the split dosing weekly but unfortunately my levels had gotten way too high. An example of why I will also suggest regular bloodwork. My PCP told me to inject every 10 days instead of reducing the dosage. I didn't disagree because less injections were appealing to me at that point. I guess it works OK but the the spilt dosing kept the levels more consistent.
Also, just an FYI, if you end up going with a PCP and insurance, the 200mg/mL is less expensive and easier to get from pharmacies than 100mg/mL. I pay about $1.77/dose but I do recognize that the cost varies by insurance coverage.
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I liked the split dosing weekly but unfortunately my levels had gotten way too high. An example of why I will also suggest regular bloodwork. My PCP told me to inject every 10 days instead of reducing the dosage. I didn't disagree because less injections were appealing to me at that point. I guess it works OK but the the spilt dosing kept the levels more consistent.
Also, just an FYI, if you end up going with a PCP and insurance, the 200mg/mL is less expensive and easier to get from pharmacies than 100mg/mL. I pay about $1.77/dose but I do recognize that the cost varies by insurance coverage.
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@HockeyRat I had my intake appointment this week and signed up with AlphaMD. Surprisingly, they don’t want new lab work for 90 days. He set me on Test. Cyp. At 140mg a week, split into 70mg doses.
I’m genuinely interested to see how the next 3 months goes.
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@hockeyrat @jtcjeff Doc wanted me to sub q ever two weeks. Screw that. Said I could do more often, so I went to daily. But that shit got old. So Mon, Wed, Fri worked well for me.
@Newenough More often the better….Yes daily pinning does get old.
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@falc I started with a 31g, same ones I use for peps, but DAMN that took for ever to pick up. Still not doing a harpoon, but went to a 29g and it's definitely faster.
@falc I started with a 31g, same ones I use for peps, but DAMN that took for ever to pick up. Still not doing a harpoon, but went to a 29g and it's definitely faster.
What carrier oil? If it's MCT, you'd probably get away with that gauge. MCT seems to be the way to go for guys doing sub-q and also a daily/EOD administration schedule.
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@falc I started with a 31g, same ones I use for peps, but DAMN that took for ever to pick up. Still not doing a harpoon, but went to a 29g and it's definitely faster.
What carrier oil? If it's MCT, you'd probably get away with that gauge. MCT seems to be the way to go for guys doing sub-q and also a daily/EOD administration schedule.
@hunt_ak currently using MCT (Miglyol, I think). I use 29G 1/2" pen needles in a V2 pen EOD, shallow IM in the quad (most of the time). My first prescription was a grape seed oil carrier (hated it, nasty PIP) I used the same size needle, as long as it was room temp it pulled fine.
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Here's an older site that shows injection sites, which I found helpful. It does not, however, list VG, which is also an excellent spot.
https://spotinjections.com/index3.htm
29G 1/2" for me as well, in a pen. I premix my cartridges (all MCT) with test and whatever extras I'm running at that time, so it's a standard dose every time I pin (currently pinning every day for current protocol).
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@jtcjeff Ive been on trt for probably 6 months, glad I did. I get it through my insurance, standard compounded Test C, 200mg/Ml dose is 20mg x 3 days a week. Some irritation, probably the carrier oil. Also picked up 2 grays as well. Both being the standard 250 per ml at 10ml. One from India, much nicer than the compounded. The other I have yet to try, but it's made with MCT and not a seed oil. Good thing these have a long shelf life!
I grabbed the grays only because insurance is known to just cancel shit. So, I wanted a backup plan in place should that happen. Cost was pretty cheap. About $40-50 for 10ml, depending on the source (includes shipping). -
@jtcjeff Ive been on trt for probably 6 months, glad I did. I get it through my insurance, standard compounded Test C, 200mg/Ml dose is 20mg x 3 days a week. Some irritation, probably the carrier oil. Also picked up 2 grays as well. Both being the standard 250 per ml at 10ml. One from India, much nicer than the compounded. The other I have yet to try, but it's made with MCT and not a seed oil. Good thing these have a long shelf life!
I grabbed the grays only because insurance is known to just cancel shit. So, I wanted a backup plan in place should that happen. Cost was pretty cheap. About $40-50 for 10ml, depending on the source (includes shipping).@Newenough thanks for the info. Curious if you have a source for your Test with MCT oil? I’m paying $250mo through TRT clinic having it compounded with MCT oil and I’d like to take care of it myself having become quite competent with the blood work, dosing etc. I’ll say w/MCT is the best way to go imop…. No more injection site issues. I’ve also gone all the way to daily IM injections to flatten out peaks hence no need for any AI garbage, no fluid retention etc.
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Here's an older site that shows injection sites, which I found helpful. It does not, however, list VG, which is also an excellent spot.
https://spotinjections.com/index3.htm
29G 1/2" for me as well, in a pen. I premix my cartridges (all MCT) with test and whatever extras I'm running at that time, so it's a standard dose every time I pin (currently pinning every day for current protocol).
@bangkokiscool Thanks for this, I think. I looked at the biceps injection. NGL, it made my nuts tingle like when I'm standing on the edge of a high spot. That looked like something I'll never do.
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