Nexaph reliability?

[pep_researcher]

Read some discussion on Nexaph TG channel that they are starting to use Freedom due to long Janoshik delays??

Was finally excited to start using Nexaph as they are adding endotoxin testing.

Also what's the deal with their MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too.

[Shifted]

Yeah I question that reasoning. The pre-order items have the testing done within about 2 weeks of people receiving the item. That's not a long time.

[pep_researcher]

I appreciate that they are putting out 97% purity COA transparently, but that difference is huge. Is there an explanation? I read Randy's blog which analysed why mass can be quite different but purity should match. Right?

[vpeps]

@pep_researcher said:

MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too

You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?

[pep_researcher]

@vpeptides Is Lilly adulterating Nexa manufacturing plant as some kind of infiltration technique?

Just kidding, or maybe not, getting conspiracy theories!

But yeah I'm curious too, and then did Nexaph get a second COA from Freedom because Jano showed such a low purity results?

[Commander]

@vpeptides said:

@pep_researcher said:

MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too

You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?

Freedom has been messing up a lot lately, in BIG ways… I wouldn’t trust anything test from them.
I use to use them all the time, but never again.

[Stevepep]

@pep_researcher i emailed Cain on this and he said they are still using Janoshik some of the group tests may use other labs like Freedom though is what it sounds like

[PeptideEd]

@pep_researcher The main purity/mass testing for the some Tesamorelin I just received is showing Freedom Labs - please note - I don't think this is a concern to me... but it appears to be more than just the group tests.

[pep_researcher]

@PeptideEd There's also the Janoshik mass/purity results tab right next to it showing different numbers. The concern is about difference. The TG channel mods said something about how each lab calculates expients, but then wouldn't that be same for all other compounds too, and wouldn't that be same for different batches within the same compound?

Was there a change in manufacturing process and raws?

[Stevepep]

@PeptideEd From Cain

Hi Steven,

We are not changing and will continue to use Janoshik as they are the gold standard.

They have the Janoshik COA there as well. Tested at two labs, and they show both; you just can't beat them. Freedom clearly has issues. Janoshik shows 3 vials tested for Mass, ID and Purity all very close. Plus Endotxins, Heavy metals and soon sterility all Janoshik.

If you want to buy from the gold standard, you found it. As Jeff calls it the easy button, you may pay more but its piece of mind

[PeptideEd]

@stevepep sorry to have gotten that wrong... I'd missed the second mass/purity tab Now I just have to figure out how to get all the direct QR codes onto my labels and still remain phone scannable on a curved vial surface

@pep_researcher I see that now... I am over all super pleased with the test coverage... but a little concerned about the less than 99% purity test from Jashonik.

[Stevepep]

@PeptideEd Ya, I wouldn't have ordered it, to be honest. The cat's out of the bag, though, so filter it and go slow.

[pep_researcher]

@PeptideEd said:

concerned about the less than 99% purity test

Yup that was my point too.

Nevertheless I wanted to say that I still appreciate their brutal honesty. They could've just displayed Freedom COA saying they used Freedom for this batch.

So despite this anomaly, between them and a vendor hopping multiple labs for every batch, I would pick Nexa.

[PeptideEd]

OK... maybe I'm just slow today... but the links to Janoshik from the new test all the things sites at Nexaph are no longer direct... they take you to a form that needs the task id and unique key... the Nexaph end provides the unique key... but I don't see the task id anywhere. Am I just blind?

[Stevepep]

@PeptideEd I just clicked on the box with the arrow, and it takes you directly to the COA on Janoshiks website

[Commander]

I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

[Nuncles]

@PeptideEd If you create tiny url's for the QR code, they can be printed smaller and still be scannable.

[Randy]

@Commander said:

s the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

yeah the klow price hike is insane. Used to be 178

[JtCjEfF]

@Randy Is this due to the recent "China is banning KPV production" scare, or something else?

[vpeps]

@Stevepep This new 97% tested batch of Tesa is now on EZ and AMP too. I appreciate the honesty too, but the previous batches were tested over 99% at Janoshik. I kind of get used already to see 99+% for the products I buy. There is 99.9% COA from Freedom for the same batch though, but we know there are issues with them. In Nexaph TG group they stated that they looked for "97% purity or more" from the test, so they got what they expected, but there are other products at higher level, and their own previous batches were at 99.7% levels.