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Nexaph reliability?

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    @pep_researcher said:

    MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too

    You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?

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    @vpeptides said:

    @pep_researcher said:

    MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too

    You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?

    Freedom has been messing up a lot lately, in BIG ways… I wouldn’t trust anything test from them.
    I use to use them all the time, but never again.

    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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    • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

      Read some discussion on Nexaph TG channel that they are starting to use Freedom due to long Janoshik delays?? 😭

      Was finally excited to start using Nexaph as they are adding endotoxin testing.

      Also what's the deal with their MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too.

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      @pep_researcher i emailed Cain on this and he said they are still using Janoshik some of the group tests may use other labs like Freedom though is what it sounds like

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        @pep_researcher The main purity/mass testing for the some Tesamorelin I just received is showing Freedom Labs - please note - I don't think this is a concern to me... but it appears to be more than just the group tests.

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          @pep_researcher The main purity/mass testing for the some Tesamorelin I just received is showing Freedom Labs - please note - I don't think this is a concern to me... but it appears to be more than just the group tests.

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          @PeptideEd There's also the Janoshik mass/purity results tab right next to it showing different numbers. The concern is about difference. The TG channel mods said something about how each lab calculates expients, but then wouldn't that be same for all other compounds too, and wouldn't that be same for different batches within the same compound?

          Was there a change in manufacturing process and raws?

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            @pep_researcher The main purity/mass testing for the some Tesamorelin I just received is showing Freedom Labs - please note - I don't think this is a concern to me... but it appears to be more than just the group tests.

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            @PeptideEd From Cain

            Hi Steven,

            We are not changing and will continue to use Janoshik as they are the gold standard.

            They have the Janoshik COA there as well. Tested at two labs, and they show both; you just can't beat them. Freedom clearly has issues. Janoshik shows 3 vials tested for Mass, ID and Purity all very close. Plus Endotxins, Heavy metals and soon sterility all Janoshik.

            If you want to buy from the gold standard, you found it. As Jeff calls it the easy button, you may pay more but its piece of mind

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              @stevepep sorry to have gotten that wrong... I'd missed the second mass/purity tab 🙂 Now I just have to figure out how to get all the direct QR codes onto my labels and still remain phone scannable on a curved vial surface 🙂

              @pep_researcher I see that now... I am over all super pleased with the test coverage... but a little concerned about the less than 99% purity test from Jashonik.

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                @stevepep sorry to have gotten that wrong... I'd missed the second mass/purity tab 🙂 Now I just have to figure out how to get all the direct QR codes onto my labels and still remain phone scannable on a curved vial surface 🙂

                @pep_researcher I see that now... I am over all super pleased with the test coverage... but a little concerned about the less than 99% purity test from Jashonik.

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                @PeptideEd Ya, I wouldn't have ordered it, to be honest. The cat's out of the bag, though, so filter it and go slow.

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                  @stevepep sorry to have gotten that wrong... I'd missed the second mass/purity tab 🙂 Now I just have to figure out how to get all the direct QR codes onto my labels and still remain phone scannable on a curved vial surface 🙂

                  @pep_researcher I see that now... I am over all super pleased with the test coverage... but a little concerned about the less than 99% purity test from Jashonik.

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                  @PeptideEd said:

                  concerned about the less than 99% purity test

                  Yup that was my point too.

                  Nevertheless I wanted to say that I still appreciate their brutal honesty. They could've just displayed Freedom COA saying they used Freedom for this batch.

                  So despite this anomaly, between them and a vendor hopping multiple labs for every batch, I would pick Nexa.

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                    OK... maybe I'm just slow today... but the links to Janoshik from the new test all the things sites at Nexaph are no longer direct... they take you to a form that needs the task id and unique key... the Nexaph end provides the unique key... but I don't see the task id anywhere. Am I just blind?

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                      OK... maybe I'm just slow today... but the links to Janoshik from the new test all the things sites at Nexaph are no longer direct... they take you to a form that needs the task id and unique key... the Nexaph end provides the unique key... but I don't see the task id anywhere. Am I just blind?

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                      @PeptideEd I just clicked on the box with the arrow, and it takes you directly to the COA on Janoshiks website

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