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  • S Stevepep

    @Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change

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    @Stevepep said:

    @Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change

    I kinda agree. If Lilly can prove the "RUO" designation was a known fiction designed solely to illegally distribute an unapproved drug, and trying to hide behind an LLC shield, a judge could likely rule that the company was being used to promote the fraud, which is a primary trigger for piercing the corporate veil. Making the owners personally responsible.

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      @Stevepep said:

      @Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change

      I kinda agree. If Lilly can prove the "RUO" designation was a known fiction designed solely to illegally distribute an unapproved drug, and trying to hide behind an LLC shield, a judge could likely rule that the company was being used to promote the fraud, which is a primary trigger for piercing the corporate veil. Making the owners personally responsible.

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      @Newenough It's almost impossible, and they have the money so tied up you could never collect it if they just get decent legal advice. Now if its criminal thats entirely different

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      • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

        @Stevepep Oh okay gotcha!

        I wasn't in the US during COVID time, but I have heard a lot of animosity and doubt around COVID vaccine. Also why are they STILL pinning people with that. I was in a not so rich pharma country during COVID, they barely managed to give 2 shots to most of the population and then stopped. No more COVID vaccine after 2022.

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        @pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones

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        • S Stevepep

          @pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones

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          @Stevepep I see. It'll be interesting because the peptide craze ship has sailed. Now there's no stopping. So it's also possible that the new administration just pivots and invest in that more if they see that people are willing to spend on it.

          In two more years the interest and research is further going to grow exponentially.

          Because if they try to go against people's will, they might lose their positions.

          Never underestimate the power of numbers 🙂

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          • S Stevepep

            @pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones

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            @Stevepep said:

            @pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones

            If trump is the secret special access patient that is getting reta from Lilly I'd imagine he'd try to stay on friendly terms with them. He's a nut job when it comes to vaccines sure, but he's not averse to giving favors to any company or government that will advantage him including pharma imo

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            • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

              Just to play it safe. Time to stock up.

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              @EXTROPIAN said:

              Just to play it safe. Time to stock up.

              Thats exactly what i did. I grabbed about a year of stock, and I dont even take it yet. I am planning on starting in Sept but just wanted a little stock just in case. 🙂

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                @EXTROPIAN said:

                Just to play it safe. Time to stock up.

                Thats exactly what i did. I grabbed about a year of stock, and I dont even take it yet. I am planning on starting in Sept but just wanted a little stock just in case. 🙂

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                @montemontemayor said:

                @EXTROPIAN said:

                Just to play it safe. Time to stock up.

                Thats exactly what i did. I grabbed about a year of stock, and I dont even take it yet. I am planning on starting in Sept but just wanted a little stock just in case. 🙂

                If you have the funds,I would buy 2 more years worth, better safe than sorry….
                Even if we are still able to get it, the price will defiantly be going up

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                • M ManicXmedic

                  @Stevepep said:

                  @pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones

                  If trump is the secret special access patient that is getting reta from Lilly I'd imagine he'd try to stay on friendly terms with them. He's a nut job when it comes to vaccines sure, but he's not averse to giving favors to any company or government that will advantage him including pharma imo

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                  @ManicXmedic I really don’t want to make this political that wasn’t my intention. I think the secret lily access has been debunked 1000 times over. It’s pretty clear this group is not owned by pharma. The last group banned peptide compounding this group just approved a bunch of them and it looks like there is more to come. Not just that but they have been open to micro dosing for ptsd etc. the one thing pharma doesn’t want is a healthy population that for sure pissed them off allowing those peptides to be compounded. They have an ax to grind over Covid where the vaccines failed to prevent people from getting the virus as promised and the story changed endlessly. Trump went all in with pharma and and got burned during covid we all know how he reacts to these things. In this case it’s good for us

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                    As popular as they have become, I believe we’re still in the infancy stage of GLP-1s and the like. Even though a lot of people use them now, I personally believe that they’ll say 90% of the population should be on them (I might actually agree). That would be money unseen by any pharma company EVER! They also have crazy deep pockets. I wouldn’t be surprised if they engage in the Tom and Jerry anyways and start buying up the Chinese API’s. Me? I’m going @commander and stocking up!

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                    • W WowwyZowwy

                      As popular as they have become, I believe we’re still in the infancy stage of GLP-1s and the like. Even though a lot of people use them now, I personally believe that they’ll say 90% of the population should be on them (I might actually agree). That would be money unseen by any pharma company EVER! They also have crazy deep pockets. I wouldn’t be surprised if they engage in the Tom and Jerry anyways and start buying up the Chinese API’s. Me? I’m going @commander and stocking up!

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                      @WowwyZowwy 99pct of the population can’t afford it. Insurance won’t pay for it. 70pct of the claims are denied. About 20 pct of the population can afford it in the US: that leaves the grey market for everyone else if there is a market someone will fill it. It’s just math

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