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  • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

    If the FDA endorse it, must be true.

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    @Mydogdaryl423 the post was about what's in Zepbound Its listed on the FDA website and both contain NACL which is counter to what AI spit out. It wasn't endorsing the use of NACL BAC just showing the very fact that its an ingredient.

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      You have zero sense of humor. Also hilarious you used AI.

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      • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

        You have zero sense of humor. Also hilarious you used AI.

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        @Mydogdaryl423 Ahhhh no article I asked claude to find it on the website i gave it. See I used some of my own smarts. You actually still have to think and use your brain in todays world.

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          Thank God for all of us that we have you out here using your smarts.

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          • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

            Thank God for all of us that we have you out here using your smarts.

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            @Mydogdaryl423 I can see this is hard for you. I actually knew this from compounders. Gave claude the FDA website and asked it to find the reference. See thats a good use of AI. You ask a general question and you will get garbage like I just showed you. Carry on. I try to do my best on here to be helpful and not just post AI drivel

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              I find your posts incredibly revealing. Keep up the good work.

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              • C Commander

                I would not trust that list...

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                @Commander said:

                I would not trust that list...

                Me either, esp. anything with copper. NAD+ UNbuffed, nope.

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                  Unfortunately there a few lists out there like this that can’t be trusted, to include the one that says what peptides can be mixed together. I always learn the hard way 🤣

                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                    Further, Sormoralin and Glutathione are both compounded using NACL BAC. It acts as a preservative in most instances, although the FDA allows companies to say "no preservatives". Maybe the compounding pharmacies are better trained in its usage I have no idea.

                    In my own experience, it's a total game changer on the peptides that bother me. NAD, SS31, and Motsc. I use a lot of those 3 and I know exactly how it feels when I am using them. In fact, I am two weeks off of Motsc for my cycle and I can feel it at the gym. They don't cloud and work the same, just with no irritation, in my experience. We are all different though so I wouldn't over order. Just order one or two vials and see for yourself.

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                    @Stevepep not even a slight tinge of "owie" when the NAD goes in?

                    SS31 ISR at 1mg/1iu is friggin annoying

                    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                      @Stevepep not even a slight tinge of "owie" when the NAD goes in?

                      SS31 ISR at 1mg/1iu is friggin annoying

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                      @Randy no I used to get the sting and a nice red itchy area and now I don’t.

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                      • M MikeMiranda

                        @Mydogdaryl423 said:

                        Ill need to put this updated list through gemini to summarize it. Lol
                        So basically NAD, SS31 & Mots C? Shit. Should have looked into this further before I bought a case.

                        I'll do that right now, here you go

                        Compatible (Good with Bacteriostatic Saline)

                        ⚬ BPC-157 & TB-500 (TB4): Extremely stable and robust peptides that handle saline well without precipitating.
                        ⚬ Epitalon & KPV: Very short-chain peptides that are highly robust and generally unaffected by saline.
                        ⚬ GHK-Cu, QHK-Cu, & AHK-Cu: Copper peptides tolerate saline well and are often used with it for specific topical applications.
                        ⚬ MOTS-c: Typically handles sodium chloride environments without issue.
                        ⚬ Ipamorelin: One of the few growth hormone-releasing peptides somewhat tolerant of saline.
                        ⚬ SS-31 (Elamipretide): Compatible for short-term use, though plain bacteriostatic water remains preferred for long-term storage.

                        Incompatible or High Risk (Avoid Bacteriostatic Saline)

                        ⚬ Retatrutide: Consistently clouds or fails entirely when reconstituted with saline.
                        ⚬ Tesamorelin: Highly salt-sensitive and notoriously prone to rapidly turning into a solid gel.
                        ⚬ AOD-9604: Possesses a fragile solubility profile and will frequently gel or clump in saline.
                        ⚬ Tirzepatide & Semaglutide: Saline introduces a notable risk of destabilization, cloudiness, and precipitation over extended storage.
                        ⚬ NAD+: Highly sensitive to the pH and ionic changes introduced by sodium chloride.
                        ⚬ HGH (Human Growth Hormone): Large, fragile chains are sensitive to aggregation from salt.
                        ⚬ Thymosin Alpha-1 ($\text{TA1}$) & Thymalin: Saline alters their charge distribution unnecessarily.
                        ⚬ GHRP-2 & GHRP-6: Salt can destabilize their structure over time compared to plain bacteriostatic water.
                        ⚬ Selank, Semax, & DSIP: Adding sodium chloride increases local irritation and speeds up solution breakdown.
                        ⚬ PT-141: Susceptible to salting-out effects over multi-week storage.
                        ⚬ LL-37 & Vasopressin: Highly susceptible to structural changes and tonicity issues from sodium chloride.
                        ⚬ hCG: Reconstituting in saline can cause premature hormone subunit dissociation.
                        ⚬ 5-Amino-1MQ: Requires specialized organic solvents, not standard saline.
                        ⚬ Multi-Peptide Blends: Highly susceptible to cross-reaction, gelling, or precipitation when salt is introduced.

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                        @MikeMiranda said:

                        NAD+: Highly sensitive to the pH and ionic changes introduced by sodium chloride.

                        Yeah! If it's UNBUFFERED! Too many sources and vendors don't give buffering info on their NAD+. Unless they specifically state it, I don't buy from them, regardless of price. Not your doing, @mikemiranda ; I'm with @commander and don't trust any of these lists.

                        Have not had a failure yet using NaCl with SS31, MOTS-C & NAD+ buffered. I use regular BAC for Cagri, Survo & KPV, as none of them sting me, so, if it works, I don't fix it. I'm done with SS31 for now and taking the other 5 only.

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                          Got my case from Medex a couple hours ago. Saw a gash in the side of the box and thought "Oh shit". Thankfully, gash was not deep enough to puncture a vial. Case was wrapped in bubble all the way around. It was $110 for the case, with tax, shipping, total was $136 & chg. Expiration is end of Feb. 2028. Instructions say NOT to use for inhalation, so nasal sprays are out.

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