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  • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

    You have zero sense of humor. Also hilarious you used AI.

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    @Mydogdaryl423 Ahhhh no article I asked claude to find it on the website i gave it. See I used some of my own smarts. You actually still have to think and use your brain in todays world.

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      Thank God for all of us that we have you out here using your smarts.

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      • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

        Thank God for all of us that we have you out here using your smarts.

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        @Mydogdaryl423 I can see this is hard for you. I actually knew this from compounders. Gave claude the FDA website and asked it to find the reference. See thats a good use of AI. You ask a general question and you will get garbage like I just showed you. Carry on. I try to do my best on here to be helpful and not just post AI drivel

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          I find your posts incredibly revealing. Keep up the good work.

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          • C Commander

            I would not trust that list...

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            @Commander said:

            I would not trust that list...

            Me either, esp. anything with copper. NAD+ UNbuffed, nope.

            Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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              Unfortunately there a few lists out there like this that can’t be trusted, to include the one that says what peptides can be mixed together. I always learn the hard way 🤣

              Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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              • S Stevepep

                Further, Sormoralin and Glutathione are both compounded using NACL BAC. It acts as a preservative in most instances, although the FDA allows companies to say "no preservatives". Maybe the compounding pharmacies are better trained in its usage I have no idea.

                In my own experience, it's a total game changer on the peptides that bother me. NAD, SS31, and Motsc. I use a lot of those 3 and I know exactly how it feels when I am using them. In fact, I am two weeks off of Motsc for my cycle and I can feel it at the gym. They don't cloud and work the same, just with no irritation, in my experience. We are all different though so I wouldn't over order. Just order one or two vials and see for yourself.

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                @Stevepep not even a slight tinge of "owie" when the NAD goes in?

                SS31 ISR at 1mg/1iu is friggin annoying

                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                  @Stevepep not even a slight tinge of "owie" when the NAD goes in?

                  SS31 ISR at 1mg/1iu is friggin annoying

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                  @Randy no I used to get the sting and a nice red itchy area and now I don’t.

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                  • M MikeMiranda

                    @Mydogdaryl423 said:

                    Ill need to put this updated list through gemini to summarize it. Lol
                    So basically NAD, SS31 & Mots C? Shit. Should have looked into this further before I bought a case.

                    I'll do that right now, here you go

                    Compatible (Good with Bacteriostatic Saline)

                    ⚬ BPC-157 & TB-500 (TB4): Extremely stable and robust peptides that handle saline well without precipitating.
                    ⚬ Epitalon & KPV: Very short-chain peptides that are highly robust and generally unaffected by saline.
                    ⚬ GHK-Cu, QHK-Cu, & AHK-Cu: Copper peptides tolerate saline well and are often used with it for specific topical applications.
                    ⚬ MOTS-c: Typically handles sodium chloride environments without issue.
                    ⚬ Ipamorelin: One of the few growth hormone-releasing peptides somewhat tolerant of saline.
                    ⚬ SS-31 (Elamipretide): Compatible for short-term use, though plain bacteriostatic water remains preferred for long-term storage.

                    Incompatible or High Risk (Avoid Bacteriostatic Saline)

                    ⚬ Retatrutide: Consistently clouds or fails entirely when reconstituted with saline.
                    ⚬ Tesamorelin: Highly salt-sensitive and notoriously prone to rapidly turning into a solid gel.
                    ⚬ AOD-9604: Possesses a fragile solubility profile and will frequently gel or clump in saline.
                    ⚬ Tirzepatide & Semaglutide: Saline introduces a notable risk of destabilization, cloudiness, and precipitation over extended storage.
                    ⚬ NAD+: Highly sensitive to the pH and ionic changes introduced by sodium chloride.
                    ⚬ HGH (Human Growth Hormone): Large, fragile chains are sensitive to aggregation from salt.
                    ⚬ Thymosin Alpha-1 ($\text{TA1}$) & Thymalin: Saline alters their charge distribution unnecessarily.
                    ⚬ GHRP-2 & GHRP-6: Salt can destabilize their structure over time compared to plain bacteriostatic water.
                    ⚬ Selank, Semax, & DSIP: Adding sodium chloride increases local irritation and speeds up solution breakdown.
                    ⚬ PT-141: Susceptible to salting-out effects over multi-week storage.
                    ⚬ LL-37 & Vasopressin: Highly susceptible to structural changes and tonicity issues from sodium chloride.
                    ⚬ hCG: Reconstituting in saline can cause premature hormone subunit dissociation.
                    ⚬ 5-Amino-1MQ: Requires specialized organic solvents, not standard saline.
                    ⚬ Multi-Peptide Blends: Highly susceptible to cross-reaction, gelling, or precipitation when salt is introduced.

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                    @MikeMiranda said:

                    NAD+: Highly sensitive to the pH and ionic changes introduced by sodium chloride.

                    Yeah! If it's UNBUFFERED! Too many sources and vendors don't give buffering info on their NAD+. Unless they specifically state it, I don't buy from them, regardless of price. Not your doing, @mikemiranda ; I'm with @commander and don't trust any of these lists.

                    Have not had a failure yet using NaCl with SS31, MOTS-C & NAD+ buffered. I use regular BAC for Cagri, Survo & KPV, as none of them sting me, so, if it works, I don't fix it. I'm done with SS31 for now and taking the other 5 only.

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                      Got my case from Medex a couple hours ago. Saw a gash in the side of the box and thought "Oh shit". Thankfully, gash was not deep enough to puncture a vial. Case was wrapped in bubble all the way around. It was $110 for the case, with tax, shipping, total was $136 & chg. Expiration is end of Feb. 2028. Instructions say NOT to use for inhalation, so nasal sprays are out.

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