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Tessamorelin protocol ? Cons / side effects ?

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  • RandyR Randy

    2mg a day over 12 weeks is the standard. Ive done it. Sore joints, water retention, isr are common.

    HGH doesnt give me any of those.

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    ResearchCat
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    @Randy said:

    2mg a day over 12 weeks is the standard. Ive done it. Sore joints, water retention, isr are common.

    HGH doesnt give me any of those.

    Yeah, I got the sore joints, especially in my hands, bad. It made me think the KLOW wasn’t working any more. 2mg x 60 days and i stopped and went back to CJC/Ipa. I might try tesa/ipa in the future, but at a lower dose.

    I think that for me, it takes a solid 2 months to see the changes in my core wrt getting much more defined. But even gaining 5 lbs pretty much covers it up, and you gotta be working out and minding your diet to really reap the gains.

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      @Randy said:

      2mg a day over 12 weeks is the standard. Ive done it. Sore joints, water retention, isr are common.

      HGH doesnt give me any of those.

      Yeah, I got the sore joints, especially in my hands, bad. It made me think the KLOW wasn’t working any more. 2mg x 60 days and i stopped and went back to CJC/Ipa. I might try tesa/ipa in the future, but at a lower dose.

      I think that for me, it takes a solid 2 months to see the changes in my core wrt getting much more defined. But even gaining 5 lbs pretty much covers it up, and you gotta be working out and minding your diet to really reap the gains.

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      @ResearchCat I research Tesa, 4 weeks at only 1 mg. I feel my knees, wrists, fingers ache when I apply force, also water retention is real. I still try to wait it out, hopefully it goes away at some point.

      attentiion is all you need

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      • vpeptidesV vpeptides

        @ResearchCat I research Tesa, 4 weeks at only 1 mg. I feel my knees, wrists, fingers ache when I apply force, also water retention is real. I still try to wait it out, hopefully it goes away at some point.

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        @vpeptides said:

        also water retention is real.

        How do you know it is the Tesa? Am I the only one who injected my girlfriend's big brown beaver with 9 different biological oozes today? How does anyone do controlled experiments when they just want the benefits, not the recognition for being an amateur scientist?

        I, unusually, got bloated and stiff today after eating a cup of seed oil laden snacks. Bet it was not the peptides that I injected into that beaver.

        Hats off to researchers.

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        • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

          @vpeptides said:

          also water retention is real.

          How do you know it is the Tesa? Am I the only one who injected my girlfriend's big brown beaver with 9 different biological oozes today? How does anyone do controlled experiments when they just want the benefits, not the recognition for being an amateur scientist?

          I, unusually, got bloated and stiff today after eating a cup of seed oil laden snacks. Bet it was not the peptides that I injected into that beaver.

          Hats off to researchers.

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          @kenhnsy you have a point. However, as possible, I try to make it cleaner, changing one thing at a time, not modifying things too often to be able to see an effect of one change, reversing the last change if a side effect is noticed until it is gone, and retrying it again to see if it's repeatable.

          attentiion is all you need

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          • J JtCjEfF

            @Randy I keep trying to talk myself out of HGH… but everything i read is that there is NO comparison between it and a secretagogue like Tesa/CJC.

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            @JtCjEfF its like going to a restaurant and asking for a diet coke and they say "we have pepsi is that ok". Yeah its ok but its not great. Secretagogue's are diet pepsi.

            "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            • J jimmygunns

              @Randy could you please share more about he average cost for 12 weeks. I just got two mg vials and realized that is only 10 2mg shots for my rat.

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              @jimmygunns kits or single bottles? This is a situation where goin grey, buying 8 kits and getting it tested is the way.

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                Yeah i got a kit of tesa for damn near free from my connect. So more like pepsi zero cherry lol

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                • J JtCjEfF

                  @Randy I keep trying to talk myself out of HGH… but everything i read is that there is NO comparison between it and a secretagogue like Tesa/CJC.

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                  @JtCjEfF

                  In retrospect, I am not sure that the Ipa's and Tesa's and CJ's etc. really did much of anything for me. The first time I did HGH I remember thinking "OH, That's what that other stuff was supposed to do" Seems a lot cleaner, and I haven't seen any side effects.

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                  • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

                    @vpeptides said:

                    also water retention is real.

                    How do you know it is the Tesa? Am I the only one who injected my girlfriend's big brown beaver with 9 different biological oozes today? How does anyone do controlled experiments when they just want the benefits, not the recognition for being an amateur scientist?

                    I, unusually, got bloated and stiff today after eating a cup of seed oil laden snacks. Bet it was not the peptides that I injected into that beaver.

                    Hats off to researchers.

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                    @kenhnsy This is why I lots of people will advise you to start new peptides one at a time. The reason i know it is the tesa is that the tesa was the only thing that was new or different. If I am researching Semax, Dihexa, MOTS-C, KLOW, and Tirz and I add Tesa, I can be reasonably confident that any new side effects are either due to the Tesa or an interaction. This is especially true if I have already researched CJC/Ipa and sermorelin and not had similar side effects.

                    I am not a veteran grandmaster in this space, but I urge people to take a conservative approach when initiating new protocols and titrating doses. You can always add more once tolerance has been established.

                    I am not judging (honest!), but hopefully you went from 1 to 9 over time and didn’t just start jabbing your research subject with 9 things. Even with KLOW, I started with wolverine, found out how spectacular it was, talked to people and read about Glow, joined this forum and saw people talking about KLOW, and grudgingly came around. Now I make my own KLOW+ blends. But that was a year long evolution.

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                    • RandyR Randy

                      @JtCjEfF its like going to a restaurant and asking for a diet coke and they say "we have pepsi is that ok". Yeah its ok but its not great. Secretagogue's are diet pepsi.

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                      @Randy sigh…. I guess thats next on my list to start learning about. I have had some success with the CJC/Ipa for accelerated recomp, but it’s wrecking my sleep. Thanks for the info, seems everyone has the same answer.

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                      • RandyR Randy

                        @JtCjEfF its like going to a restaurant and asking for a diet coke and they say "we have pepsi is that ok". Yeah its ok but its not great. Secretagogue's are diet pepsi.

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                        @Randy I like how you put the "peps" in Pepsi!

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                        • RandyR Randy

                          2mg a day over 12 weeks is the standard. Ive done it. Sore joints, water retention, isr are common.

                          HGH doesnt give me any of those.

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                          @Randy gonna just finish all the Tesa I got then start Acquiring some Hgh

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                            Dr. Tatem says that HGH does not increase athletic performance. Has anyone who gives it to their research beast found this to be false?
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw6Q5Lje9Qs
                            Sorry to beat this topic with a stick.

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