FDA approves Tirzepatide to reduce heart attacks/strokes
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@eurouser Most people still trust the authorities, at least to some degree, and most of them aren’t going down the same rabbit holes that the self-selected population on this forum have.
It’s entirely reasonable to expect people to trust the FDA and authorities despite or because of COVID or other things, because they think everything was done with their best interest in mind. You may think that is preposterous and that is okay.
Pick any issue, and you’re going to find about half the people blindly follow the conventional wisdom, another 30-40% are opposed to it, and the rest either don’t care or think there is a conspiracy to put peptides in the marshmallows in your Lucky Charms.
@ResearchCat thats a fair argument for sure and i agree with your percentages. One thing i would say though just to clarify where i am coming from is that I noticed in recent years, especially due to covid, that even the people who used to be "the most" hardcore believers in authority, started to wake up to the big pharma/FDA/etc scam. I am talking people who would run away for 10 miles if they hear the word "conspiracy" and yet, they still started thinking "hey, maybe i should look at other sources for information to make a better informed decision about my health".
That's why i kind of have a higher standard now days in terms of dismissing someone completely if see that they still have so much trust in the above mentioned industries. -
@EXTROPIAN she sounds very dumb to be honest, it requires a huge amount of stupidity to still have this level of "FDA belief" after all the BS we lived through since covid alone (not even considering previous historical fuck ups and corruption of big pharma), i don't think she will ever wake up and start benefiting from peptides. Sometimes we just have to accept that we can't help everyone. You can only lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
@eurouser the way I see it we all share a degree of dumb. Some are more or less. I use to get irritated by dumber people than me. Now I just consider myself a catalyst. I may not have all the answers but I just pay it forward. If I ever get checked, I learn. You can't save them all. That's the reason I took it to this extreme, not only reversing my personal crisis but to also live by example. Practice what you preach. Many close to me see my health emprove significantly and are asking question. Most who do listen still can't get passed the estigma of the needle. Even i am going through what one here called "needle fatigue".
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A meta level view of this, from Arthur Brooks’ podcast this week(about faith) is that people generally resist changing their convictions because doing so makes them feel like they are wrong or a bad person. If you have spent your whole life believing ‘Science is Real’, then it is very difficult to publicly or privately acknowledge that just maybe you placed your trust and belief in the wrong people or things. It is even more difficult when your entire social existence is predicated on sharing the same views and beliefs as your friends without tolerance for deviation.
Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude
If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.
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A meta level view of this, from Arthur Brooks’ podcast this week(about faith) is that people generally resist changing their convictions because doing so makes them feel like they are wrong or a bad person. If you have spent your whole life believing ‘Science is Real’, then it is very difficult to publicly or privately acknowledge that just maybe you placed your trust and belief in the wrong people or things. It is even more difficult when your entire social existence is predicated on sharing the same views and beliefs as your friends without tolerance for deviation.
@ResearchCat you know as of science it is true for religion. Many neglect the politics, special interest and the monetary value to the equation to an ever changing new evidenced, changing context, perspectives. It just gets complicated and many just surrender and pick a side. lol The best advice I was ever told as a manager was "Estropian, you just have to figure out how to get along." I failed (fired) because I was about to kick the living "beep" of a employee who threatened me. lol
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@eurouser the way I see it we all share a degree of dumb. Some are more or less. I use to get irritated by dumber people than me. Now I just consider myself a catalyst. I may not have all the answers but I just pay it forward. If I ever get checked, I learn. You can't save them all. That's the reason I took it to this extreme, not only reversing my personal crisis but to also live by example. Practice what you preach. Many close to me see my health emprove significantly and are asking question. Most who do listen still can't get passed the estigma of the needle. Even i am going through what one here called "needle fatigue".
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A meta level view of this, from Arthur Brooks’ podcast this week(about faith) is that people generally resist changing their convictions because doing so makes them feel like they are wrong or a bad person. If you have spent your whole life believing ‘Science is Real’, then it is very difficult to publicly or privately acknowledge that just maybe you placed your trust and belief in the wrong people or things. It is even more difficult when your entire social existence is predicated on sharing the same views and beliefs as your friends without tolerance for deviation.
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