MOTS-c Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol
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Has anyone done SS-31 along with MOTS-C?
I'm thinking about an SS-31, MOTS-C, NAD+ cycle.
@justalittleprick there are some pretty common protocols that use all three. I started MOTS-C at the end of my SS-31 cycle and am researching MOTS-C and NAD+ together.
A friend recently finished the SS/MOTS/NAD 12 week cycle and loved it. Said it gave him tons of energy.
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@myb I think it may be that NAD+ is not actually an anti-oxidant itself, but rather optimizes conditions for your bodies own production and recycling of glutathione. I would expect there to be other rate limiters in there that would prevent a super-physiological bollus of glutathione from those improvements, and thus you may not get the issues you would get from simply injecting glutathione directly. Please note: this is all kobbled together in my brain from some fly by research, so take this less seriously as 'reality' and more as 'speculation'.
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@peptideed i followed the phd lady’s train of thought and it made sense. After your comment I decided to dig deeper and found studies that conflicted the information originally provided. They use different pathways so can actually be used together.
“The effects of the mitochondrial‐targeted drugs SS‐31 and NMN were tested on aged mouse hearts. It was found that SS‐31 restores diastolic function, while NMN restores high work systolic function. Both drugs normalized PCr/ATP dynamics and increased mitochondrial NAD(P)H levels in response to a work jump. NMN also raised NAD+ levels during the work jump. When given in combination, the drugs increased resting NAD(H) levels, indicating a synergistic effect.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7576234/#:~:text=The effects of the mitochondrial,levels%2C indicating a synergistic effect.
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This is awesome and looking to go there. Curious what your age is for context?
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If I’m going to filter a vial of MOTS-C, do I need to let it come to room temperature prior to filtering?
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Generally, I let both the peptide and the bac water come to room temperature, and filter into a cartridge right after, so for me, it will be at room temperature when I filter it.
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B brandenscheidecker referenced this topic
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I’ve seen a protocol where the starting dose was 5mg 2 to 3 times a week. Is smaller daily doses better than higher doses less often?
