GLOW Research Dosing Protocol

MyB

How do you stop the GLOW burn?
I reconstituted 50/10/10 with 6ml BW. Dosed 20u, stung all day. Today I shot 20u into a 1ml syringe and filled the rest with BW. Still burns today as bad as the less diluted did yesterday.
When you all said it can sting, I assumed you meant like b12 stings going in then nothing. Not this all day sting BS

ResearchCat

I am diluting 70 mg Glow into 3ml and researching 12 units/day. sometimes small burn. Try injecting slowly, like 20 seconds to dispense. I know it doesn’t make sense, but I have found that injecting slowly burns less. Maybe try different spots. Are you using Hospira bac water?

MyB

Yes to hospira BW. No ISR, doesnt sting going in, area just stings all day after a few minutes. Tried belly and thigh. Using 31g 8mm. Will try a smaller gauge to slow down the push next. Don’t think that’ll help much though.

sunny16

I was getting terrible welts from using GLOW, so I discontinued it and decided to try KLOW instead since it includes KPV which is an anti-inflammatory. I have been amazed at the difference. I now get zero stinging or welts. One thing to note is that I bought these from different vendors, so I can't be 100% sure that there weren't any other factors causing my reaction to the GLOW.

justalittleprick

I'm starting KLOW this weekend. I'll report back on the results and my research.

MyB

I’m discontinuing Glow. Today all prior sites are red. Rat had a sleepless night due to a histamine response.
I read the constant burn is because GHK-Cu can irritate nerve fibers, no matter how diluted.
Only posting this to give anyone else a heads up, if their rat has a history of histamine intolerance.

PeptideEd

@myb thanks for posting your experience. We all have bodies that respond differently, and its is very helpful when one has an issue to see they aren't the only one

Randy

@MyB Im a itchy boy myself. I can tell you bpc/tb4 always cause me to get itchy by day 3/4. Its well documented on other forums and reddit. Kpv can even push me into histamine issues if im doing too much for too long. Plain GHK is fine and im back to 6mg in the morning. I was doing 10mg but it was becoming too painful.

hunt_ak

@MyB said:

I’m discontinuing Glow. Today all prior sites are red. Rat had a sleepless night due to a histamine response.
I read the constant burn is because GHK-Cu can irritate nerve fibers, no matter how diluted.
Only posting this to give anyone else a heads up, if their rat has a history of histamine intolerance.

Dredging up an old thread but lots in here have had ISR/lingering stinging and pain from GLOW/KLOW. I've got a friend who is experiencing a lot of this. Tried further diluting her KLOW and it wasn't helping so she's giving up on it.

She'd love to continue it as she's got some joint pain she would like help with but can't stand the burning. I've read about/seen 'buffered BAC' called no-sting. Anyone have experience with this?

https://www.medicalbacwater.com/product-page/no-sting-20ml-glycerol-enhanced-bacteriostatic-solution

Stevepep

@hunt_ak I think this is similar to Hospira Bariostatic Sodium Chloride and its far cheaper on peptide test. I was wondering if it could be used with GHK-CU. They are saying it can. Can someone with knowledge chime in

brithus

To avoid the KLOW or GLOW "burn" from the GHK-CU, I reconstitute with 6ml bac water rather than 3ml. Never had a single stinging or burning reaction on any research subject.

glpbacon

For me, dilution has not helped. What has helped:

Injecting very slowly
letting the peptide come to room temp

But does not eliminate the sting.

hunt_ak

@glpbacon are you experiencing long-term burning/dull ache and/or redness/swelling at the injection site lasting many hours or days?

Snake Pepskin

@Stevepep I haven’t personally tried it, but I read, after some posted pictures of a recon with saline, when the copper actually precipitated and you could see copper flakes in the vial. I found this, after looking into it.

https://peptidesexplorer.com/blog/how-to-reconstitute-ghk-cu

glpbacon

@hunt_ak the burning / dull ache lasts hours. Before I started injecting slowly, I had a couple of days-long reactions.

The sting isn’t intolerable.

hunt_ak

@glpbacon Good to know. You all but remedied it by injecting room-temp and very slowly? How slowly? A minute to push the plunger down?

ResearchCat

15-20 seconds works for me. You just have to figure out what works. I can confirm that if you are getting burn from GHK, injecting slow does help.

glpbacon

@hunt_ak good questions! I use a pen, and I inject 2 units at a time, and wait about 5-10 seconds, and then do the next amount.

Total volume: 15 units, so it takes about 60-90 seconds to fully inject. I'm injecting into belly fat. I found that upper glutes are just as sensitive.

15 units == 4 mgs KLOW, so 2.5 mg of GHK-cu per injection, 500 mcg of the others.

Because I'm using a pen, I don't wait for room temp, I do it cold since I don't want the entire vial coming up to room temp.

Pre-pen / insulin needle, I would draw the amount and let that come up to room temp, which helped.

I'm going to use an insulin needle tonight to draw out my dose from the cart, and I'll try both room temp AND slow injection and report back.

hunt_ak

Thanks for the info @researchcat and @glpbacon! I'll have my contact try both of these things to see if it helps at all.

mmp

@glpbacon Did that help?