SS-31 Dosage for Researching
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@PeptidePete
I wouldn't disagree with that at all. I do the Tes/Ipa, not straight gh. I also like thew MOTS during that cycle for the added insulin sensitivity. However, the cost factor plays into things so I don't do it as a forever. So running the MOTS alongside the SS-31 isn't prohibitive and potentially even synergistic? I should be starting a Epitalon/Pinealon cycle even sooner. I am excited about the Pinealon potential. I have done Epitalon solo in the past and can't say much for what it did for me.@Shaqdiesel All the new research coming out is exactly that, take SS-31 and Mots-C together.
The previous thought was SS-31 first, but that is wrong.
My question since I seem to be sensitive to certain peptides....does SS-31 sting or leave a welt? I have some, just haven't started yet. The stories about Mots-C scare me. Not sure I want to go there b/c I'm likely the one who will get all the side effects.
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@PeptidePete
I wouldn't disagree with that at all. I do the Tes/Ipa, not straight gh. I also like thew MOTS during that cycle for the added insulin sensitivity. However, the cost factor plays into things so I don't do it as a forever. So running the MOTS alongside the SS-31 isn't prohibitive and potentially even synergistic? I should be starting a Epitalon/Pinealon cycle even sooner. I am excited about the Pinealon potential. I have done Epitalon solo in the past and can't say much for what it did for me.@Shaqdiesel Why are you interested in Pinealon? I'm on it now and I don't notice much. Maybe deeper sleep, but I can't be positive. Starting today I adjusted my dosing to morning vs evening as this was suggested to me.
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@gym.rat My RS hasn't used the SS-31 yet. I am still waiting on delivery and then testing so it'll be a little while but I want to make sure I have the schedule/dosing program ready. The MOTS didn't have any sting or problems in my RS but my wife's RS gets ISR stinging with it. That lasts 15-20 minutes. Love MOTS and what it does for endurance. Like a 3rd lung and the ability to just keep going and going. The SS-31 and MOTS will be run together on the next cycle.
As for the Pinealon, the main goal is sleep improvements. But the potential for cognitive/memory improvements would be great as well. It'll be run in tandem with Epitalon.
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interesting~ I just ordered a kit of ss31 for my rat, what kind of motsc/ss31 dosage protocol are you researching? My Rat currently gets 1.5 mg motsc with 50mg NAD daily, looking to raise it to 2mg mots and 75 NAD daily not sure were to start ss31?
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interesting~ I just ordered a kit of ss31 for my rat, what kind of motsc/ss31 dosage protocol are you researching? My Rat currently gets 1.5 mg motsc with 50mg NAD daily, looking to raise it to 2mg mots and 75 NAD daily not sure were to start ss31?
@brandenscheidecker
SS-31
Dose: 1 to 2 mg per day or if well tolerated 4mg. Trials did something crazy like 40mg, but I think thats wasteful considering the vial sizes and cost. 4mg seems to around the sweet spot.
Frequency: Once daily, but there is some evidence that 3x a week is fine
Administration: Subcutaneous injection
Duration: 4 to 8 weeks (repair phase)
Side Effects: Some report fatigue first 3-7 days.RECONSTITUTION (10 mg vial)
Bac water: 2 mLMOTS-c at 10 mg split into 3 injections per week
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interesting~ I just ordered a kit of ss31 for my rat, what kind of motsc/ss31 dosage protocol are you researching? My Rat currently gets 1.5 mg motsc with 50mg NAD daily, looking to raise it to 2mg mots and 75 NAD daily not sure were to start ss31?
@brandenscheidecker What's your age? If you're under 40 I wouldn't bother with SS-31. Its more of an age related decline where SS-31 comes in useful.
I think people get carried away with the NAD+. Find the sweet spot and stay there. My female lab rat actually brought dosing back down to 30mg because that was most efficient and uses it as needed, but in that 3-4x a week. More does not equal better. Plus its a waste of money. You gonna run 100mg of NAD for the rest of your life? Better sell a kidney.
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@PeptideEd said in SS-31 Dosage for Researching:
@peptideed do you have a preferred source of sturgeon eggs?
Yeah...you have to let your wallet be your guide on this one
In nutritional ranked order (seriously, big differences):Sturgeon- I look for 1kg tins which is where best value per gm/oz is found and last me 1.5-2 weeks per tin in spite of the suggestion they be used in days. I keep the tin(s) in a vacuum bag except when serving. Look for discounts which is what I do. I personally like Bester, but others are good and can be found on Amazon.
Paddlefish is an alternative but releases oil in the tin and flavor/texture not as nice, price is approx -50% vs sturgeon.
Salmon roe is even lower cost per gm/oz but definitely an acquired taste, buy the wild ones shipped frozen!
Trout/flying fish roe is wholly inferior nutritional quality, I would not use.
Repair...Optimize (roe)...Uncouple. My big picture protocol.
This approach I'm sure sounds batshit crazy to some, but serious researchers will understand.
@PeptidePete I buy pink salmon caviar and eat it everyday. I enjoy it on the bread with avocado, with my morning coffee. Yummy
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I want to understand if this is recommended to do 4mg a day why most vials are only 10mg - does the potency deplete rapidly after reconstitution? It seems like an expensive one to pin but I'm interested in learning more and potentially researching it.
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@brandenscheidecker What's your age? If you're under 40 I wouldn't bother with SS-31. Its more of an age related decline where SS-31 comes in useful.
I think people get carried away with the NAD+. Find the sweet spot and stay there. My female lab rat actually brought dosing back down to 30mg because that was most efficient and uses it as needed, but in that 3-4x a week. More does not equal better. Plus its a waste of money. You gonna run 100mg of NAD for the rest of your life? Better sell a kidney.
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I want to understand if this is recommended to do 4mg a day why most vials are only 10mg - does the potency deplete rapidly after reconstitution? It seems like an expensive one to pin but I'm interested in learning more and potentially researching it.
@BeeKind Not really. It depends on how serious your issues are. The FDA trials went long term and used huge doses for something called Barth's Syndrome. If you're just your avg run down 40+ yo, then start at .500 and move up 1 or 2mg. That's all you need. Run the repair cycle 4-8 weeks. If you look around you can find larger vials.
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@gym.rat Make that both kidneys. An NAD+ Empress such as me is returning to 30-40 M, W, F nowadays. 100/d?! Yikes! Sell kidneys/buy chandelier to swing on.
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@Eleanor You could also try 5-amino-1mq as it can prevent your body using up all the natural NAD+. Some people really like it. Some fat loss is part of the cycle as well, but nothing major.
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