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    I don't know if anyone has mentioned it here before but there is an on-going 15% discount on FGLR with the code “JFDISCOUNT"

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      I don't know if anyone has mentioned it here before but there is an on-going 15% discount on FGLR with the code “JFDISCOUNT"

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      @TrueNorth
      Curious if you know if that code stacks with 'JayC' which is the typical 15% discount code that works for almost anything on the BLL site?

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        @TrueNorth
        Curious if you know if that code stacks with 'JayC' which is the typical 15% discount code that works for almost anything on the BLL site?

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        Disregard. It does not.

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          Fascinating stuff though.
          https://share.google/WJmBtqKd92G5LOuX9

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            Josh doesn't know jack about this one. If he tries it for 4 months and then says it doesn't work it will confirm he's a buffoon. If he actually did a trial most likely he'd have to make another video with 'I was wrong' in the title. I sense this might be up your alley though!

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              Josh doesn't know jack about this one. If he tries it for 4 months and then says it doesn't work it will confirm he's a buffoon. If he actually did a trial most likely he'd have to make another video with 'I was wrong' in the title. I sense this might be up your alley though!

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              @Stones67 said:

              Josh doesn't know jack about this one. If he tries it for 4 months and then says it doesn't work it will confirm he's a buffoon. If he actually did a trial most likely he'd have to make another video with 'I was wrong' in the title. I sense this might be up your alley though!

              That video tells me everything I need to know...about the person who created the video. Zero credibility. A buffoon.

              On a side note, for research purposes, I am shifting to 2.5mg FLGR once per week starting tomorrow (2.5mg every Monday). Just completing a wash-out week to set up for the change. My wife will remain on 2.5mg per week, so we just split a vial per week.

              If. IF, FLGR242 response curves parallel the Bimagrumab results, a good possibility but not yet known as fact, then half a year gives me the vast majority of the benefits, and I can taper back until we have a year of more of continued lack of negative signals. In other words, play cautious simply for the sake of doing so until BioLongevityLabs publishes results of currently ongoing human testing.

              Last week I did another round of labs and for example my PSA remains unchanged at 0.5, so prostate is happy. Rest of labs look as expected with no surprises, in spite of being on a TRT++ protocol for three months + FLGR, so a worst case, or depending how you look at it, a best case (lol!) scenario.

              I remain a researcher of Klotho at one vial per 13 days.

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click on image to zoom&p=PMC3&id=13004672_41591_2026_4204_Fig2_HTML.jpg

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                Just an update. Yes, I realized that Paramount is the out facing vendor for Alpha BioMed, which erroneously publishes that alpha-Klotho LR (MAB) is a monoclonal antibody, which it is not! I just messaged Mike Farber on LinkedIn, and he responded within minutes.

                I am now researching both FLGR-242 (5mg) and a-Klotho LR (10 mcg). I purchased from BLL. Both with discounts came to about $174.57/vial.

                Chronological age: 66.3-yrs-old. TruAge OMICmAge = 60.8. Symphony Age 62.3. Telomere Biological Age 69.1.

                I have since done two rounds of Epithalon + Thymalin. I also take TA65 Rx 500 QD. Pinning Testosterone Cypionate 20U (40 mg) sub-Q every other day--just switched from IM twice a week.

                One round of Senolytic FOXO4-DRI.

                Cycling Tesa/Ipa - 2mg/200mcg 5d on/2d off.

                Started alpha-Klotho 10 mcg Q 2 weeks.

                Started FLGR-242 initially at 5mg Q wk, but decided to do 2.5 mg twice a week.

                Exercising 5x/week - mostly resistance exercises, but will resume using Peloton.

                Regularly checking Biomarkers and DEXA scans. Have done GutID and SelfDecode methylation tests.

                I just wanted to share baselines so I can report on changes to biomarkers, body composition, etc.

                The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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                  Just an update. Yes, I realized that Paramount is the out facing vendor for Alpha BioMed, which erroneously publishes that alpha-Klotho LR (MAB) is a monoclonal antibody, which it is not! I just messaged Mike Farber on LinkedIn, and he responded within minutes.

                  I am now researching both FLGR-242 (5mg) and a-Klotho LR (10 mcg). I purchased from BLL. Both with discounts came to about $174.57/vial.

                  Chronological age: 66.3-yrs-old. TruAge OMICmAge = 60.8. Symphony Age 62.3. Telomere Biological Age 69.1.

                  I have since done two rounds of Epithalon + Thymalin. I also take TA65 Rx 500 QD. Pinning Testosterone Cypionate 20U (40 mg) sub-Q every other day--just switched from IM twice a week.

                  One round of Senolytic FOXO4-DRI.

                  Cycling Tesa/Ipa - 2mg/200mcg 5d on/2d off.

                  Started alpha-Klotho 10 mcg Q 2 weeks.

                  Started FLGR-242 initially at 5mg Q wk, but decided to do 2.5 mg twice a week.

                  Exercising 5x/week - mostly resistance exercises, but will resume using Peloton.

                  Regularly checking Biomarkers and DEXA scans. Have done GutID and SelfDecode methylation tests.

                  I just wanted to share baselines so I can report on changes to biomarkers, body composition, etc.

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                  diegoc
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                  @ImaFrogNotaRat hey brother.

                  Just an opinion.

                  At your age I would do GH instead of the secretagogues

                  Maybe 2iu would suffice.

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                    Also check your Total, and Free test like in 2-3 weeks, dont wait months.

                    Sometimes Test SQ doesn’t absorb well.

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                      Also check your Total, and Free test like in 2-3 weeks, dont wait months.

                      Sometimes Test SQ doesn’t absorb well.

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                      ImaFrogNotaRat
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                      @diegoc Thank you for the advice. My goal with the Tesa/Ipa is to reduce visceral fat (3.5 lbs VAT) and reduce inflammatory causes of atherosclerotic CVD. My reluctance to use the GH is my controlled Type 2 Diabetes. I don't want any acute insulin resistance. Are you implying that the GH would be better from an anabolic perspective?

                      I'm afraid of messing with the HPA axis.

                      As for the sub-Q testosterone, that's a good point. Presumably that has to get absorbed somewhere. I could always pin my anterior/lateral thigh. I believe even the 1/2" needle would hit the muscle.

                      The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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                        diegoc
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                        The GH is more of a longevity protocol, but the secretogoges do work well however mainly for younger age ppl. Just check your IGF levels to not be throwing money away.

                        I really dont know how it would work with Diabetes, so you might need to check on that.

                        If your doing a 1/2” in the ventral glute then your doing a shallow IM, thats were i shoot my test and its the best

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                          @Stones67 said:

                          Josh doesn't know jack about this one. If he tries it for 4 months and then says it doesn't work it will confirm he's a buffoon. If he actually did a trial most likely he'd have to make another video with 'I was wrong' in the title. I sense this might be up your alley though!

                          That video tells me everything I need to know...about the person who created the video. Zero credibility. A buffoon.

                          On a side note, for research purposes, I am shifting to 2.5mg FLGR once per week starting tomorrow (2.5mg every Monday). Just completing a wash-out week to set up for the change. My wife will remain on 2.5mg per week, so we just split a vial per week.

                          If. IF, FLGR242 response curves parallel the Bimagrumab results, a good possibility but not yet known as fact, then half a year gives me the vast majority of the benefits, and I can taper back until we have a year of more of continued lack of negative signals. In other words, play cautious simply for the sake of doing so until BioLongevityLabs publishes results of currently ongoing human testing.

                          Last week I did another round of labs and for example my PSA remains unchanged at 0.5, so prostate is happy. Rest of labs look as expected with no surprises, in spite of being on a TRT++ protocol for three months + FLGR, so a worst case, or depending how you look at it, a best case (lol!) scenario.

                          I remain a researcher of Klotho at one vial per 13 days.

                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click on image to zoom&p=PMC3&id=13004672_41591_2026_4204_Fig2_HTML.jpg

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                          bfuller
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                          @PeptidePete I agree, Josh doesn't know Jack about a lot of stuff and he recently just self crowned himself as the biggest channel for peptides.

                          He did a video of 5 amino and he isn't even aware of the difference in bioavailability between oral and subQ. His math said you needed 50 mg of 5 amino based on the rat studies, he then went on to say that the dose required for both Sub Q and oral was the same 50mg and recomended oral becasue the tsablets come in 50 mgs and its cheaper. I actually LOL'd when I watched it.

                          He also did a GH peptide video where he messed up in a claim about receptor desensitization and I left a comment in his video with a link to the evidence politely but he just deleted my comment within minutes.

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                            Stones67
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                            For those following these compounds just a heads up. BLL has a 50% off sale running through July30. Code JayC usually adds another 15% off. That is all!

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                              denti
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                              With the current discount I think I am going to jump in. Been eyeing this for awhile. I may have missed it earlier in this thread, but any suggestions on dosing and how often? I was going to buy the 6 pack so 12 vials.

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                                I mean 2 vials is a whole ass cycle if i remember correctly from gc and jays talk.. So if i saw it for like 120 a vial id probably bite. Till then. Ill leave it to you rich old farts lol

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                                  It's down to 100 a vial with the current discount and JayC coupon buying the 6 pack. Didn't realize 2 vials is a whole cycle. Maybe I will just do that then.

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                                    🤔 Well fuck

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                                      It's down to 100 a vial with the current discount and JayC coupon buying the 6 pack. Didn't realize 2 vials is a whole cycle. Maybe I will just do that then.

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                                      @denti said:

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                                      I would read this topic. You need quite a bit more than 2 vials

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                                        quicksilver80
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                                        Weird. Must have misheard

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                                          @quicksilver80 Hi quick! So I would say that it helped weight loss- leaned me out in a way that was different from just losing fat. Before starting FLGR I had lost 20lbs with Reta at a dose of 0.5mg every 6 days. Probably never even benefitted from the glucagon effect with that low dose! But being a hyper-responder has its benefits? When visible changes stalled and the scale wouldn't budge I began to consider Reta might be holding me back from some of the follistatin benefits- you need calories to build muscle. It was time to cycle off reta anyway. The last 5 weeks I've added 4ish lbs which appears to be essentially all muscle. Can't prove it yet as next Dexa isn't until the fall.
                                          You are correct about the supply chain/ gatekeeping. As I can tell you already know, Follistatin has been known and tried for decades. My understanding is that the patent is on the albumin binder, which extends the half-life to something like 2 weeks, not the follistatin itself. Hence unlikely to be found in the wild for a while. Rejoice in economies of scale though- down $300 for a months supply on BioLongevity Labs due to more efficient production! Hope that helps.

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                                          @Stones67 said:

                                          @quicksilver80 Hi quick! So I would say that it helped weight loss- leaned me out in a way that was different from just losing fat. Before starting FLGR I had lost 20lbs with Reta at a dose of 0.5mg every 6 days. Probably never even benefitted from the glucagon effect with that low dose! But being a hyper-responder has its benefits? When visible changes stalled and the scale wouldn't budge I began to consider Reta might be holding me back from some of the follistatin benefits- you need calories to build muscle. It was time to cycle off reta anyway. The last 5 weeks I've added 4ish lbs which appears to be essentially all muscle. Can't prove it yet as next Dexa isn't until the fall.
                                          You are correct about the supply chain/ gatekeeping. As I can tell you already know, Follistatin has been known and tried for decades. My understanding is that the patent is on the albumin binder, which extends the half-life to something like 2 weeks, not the follistatin itself. Hence unlikely to be found in the wild for a while. Rejoice in economies of scale though- down $300 for a months supply on BioLongevity Labs due to more efficient production! Hope that helps.

                                          Stones67 what dosing/timing did you start at and what are you doing now?

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