Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)
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Ordered 12 vials and will do a 6 month period on FLGR242. Will follow the protocol Stones67 posted above. Here are my starting stats. Just had Dexa and labs done again last week. Will get them again after 12 weeks of FLGR242 and resistance training and again at the end of 24 weeks
Male 44
Weight 165.2lbs (Weighed 162 that morning on my own scale without clothing and 159lbs today)
Body Fat: 18.8%
Body Fat: 31 lbs
Lean Mass: 127.1 lbs
Visceral Fat: 0.60 lbsTestosterone: 513
Testosterone Free (Dialysis) 73.6
T4 Free: 1.3
T3 Free: 2.9
IGF 1: 193
Z Score: 0.7
SHBG: 41Currently no resistance training, but a lot of running with a weighted vest. Will cut down on running and focus mainly resistance training on my Tonal as I feel like I look just soft and skinny fat. Would like to do a body recomposition. Will probably get back on a cycle of Tesa/Ipa during the 6 months on FLGR242. In the middle of an 8 week cycle of SS-31/Mots-c/NAD+/5Amino-1mq.
Any advice from PeptidePete, Stones67 or Diegoc on anything you would recommend I do differently I would appreciate it. Will keep you all updated. PeptidePete and Stones67 sold me on trying FLGR242 after reading about their results.
@denti I would hold off on the FLGR, but good that you got the discount.
Im not saying you should do this, but this is what I would do.
I would raise my Testosterone, at least to the top of the range, this will give you strength to push hard in the gym.
You need a min of 3x a week in the gym, full body or 4x a week if you split.
You would waste your FLGR if you dont prime your muscles.
Eat at least 150-160g of protein, i eat more but thats a min.
40-60g of Fats and the rest in carbs.Track your protein and calories.
Check your Thyroid….
About 3-4 weeks in Testosterone, start your Tesa, or GH .
Get in the gym around 2-3months, get good at form and do progressive overload, track your lift.
THEN, add FLGR…..
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@denti I would hold off on the FLGR, but good that you got the discount.
Im not saying you should do this, but this is what I would do.
I would raise my Testosterone, at least to the top of the range, this will give you strength to push hard in the gym.
You need a min of 3x a week in the gym, full body or 4x a week if you split.
You would waste your FLGR if you dont prime your muscles.
Eat at least 150-160g of protein, i eat more but thats a min.
40-60g of Fats and the rest in carbs.Track your protein and calories.
Check your Thyroid….
About 3-4 weeks in Testosterone, start your Tesa, or GH .
Get in the gym around 2-3months, get good at form and do progressive overload, track your lift.
THEN, add FLGR…..
@denti I would hold off on the FLGR, but good that you got the discount.
Im not saying you should do this, but this is what I would do.
I would raise my Testosterone, at least to the top of the range, this will give you strength to push hard in the gym.
You need a min of 3x a week in the gym, full body or 4x a week if you split.
You would waste your FLGR if you dont prime your muscles.
Eat at least 150-160g of protein, i eat more but thats a min.
40-60g of Fats and the rest in carbs.Track your protein and calories.
Check your Thyroid….
About 3-4 weeks in Testosterone, start your Tesa, or GH .
Get in the gym around 2-3months, get good at form and do progressive overload, track your lift.
THEN, add FLGR…..
I appreciate the advice. I avg around 120g of protein a day right now. Will try to get it up to around 150g soon. My Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) if that's what you are referring to was at 1.3 at last check.
The current plan is to cut back on the running to maybe once a week and hit my tonal 3-4days a week. I just want to put on muscle as quickly as I can. Not looking to be huge, but just to not look like skinny fat any longer.
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@diegoc I am not too much interested in building more muscles, I have enough. I understood you used Klotho, and I ask whether you see the difference from this peptide. I know it's not for building muscles, it is used for protection of tissues and organs, and to delay age-related physical decline, as I understand. I wonder if it can be felt or tested.
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Over and over and over again, doctors and influencers will tell you that proper sleep, diet, and lifting heavy things are the best thing you can do for hormonal balance and overall well-being. There are even arguments to be made that all this peptide nonsense is just driving you to get better sleep and eat better, which leads to the results you want.
TL;DR - and no, I am not your real dad (
), but if you know your test is tanking because of lifestyle issues, try to solve that organically before you spend a ton of money on peps and other stuff.I was talking to a urologist yesterday and they were saying a large swing(drop) in T levels from one test to another could be just due to short term stuff and doesn’t necessarily warrant TRT.
Sorry I am rambling. Seth Capehart made a video recently that basically says what I said above, and what @diegoc is saying. Do lift, eat, and sleep for 6 months and if you don’t feel great and have good labs, then dive down the rabbit hole.
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@denti I would hold off on the FLGR, but good that you got the discount.
Im not saying you should do this, but this is what I would do.
I would raise my Testosterone, at least to the top of the range, this will give you strength to push hard in the gym.
You need a min of 3x a week in the gym, full body or 4x a week if you split.
You would waste your FLGR if you dont prime your muscles.
Eat at least 150-160g of protein, i eat more but thats a min.
40-60g of Fats and the rest in carbs.Track your protein and calories.
Check your Thyroid….
About 3-4 weeks in Testosterone, start your Tesa, or GH .
Get in the gym around 2-3months, get good at form and do progressive overload, track your lift.
THEN, add FLGR…..
I appreciate the advice. I avg around 120g of protein a day right now. Will try to get it up to around 150g soon. My Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) if that's what you are referring to was at 1.3 at last check.
The current plan is to cut back on the running to maybe once a week and hit my tonal 3-4days a week. I just want to put on muscle as quickly as I can. Not looking to be huge, but just to not look like skinny fat any longer.
@denti yeah 120g of Protein is not enough, and all the cardio running, you burn it all.
I still do cardio 4x a week 20m, 12k steps, but the key is the gym…
You need to go really hard, i know I said the same thing.
I dont want to be a bodybuilder, just dont want to look skinny fat, but when the muscle starts growing and the abs pop out, you get all the compliments, then you really take it seriously and get disciplined.!
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@vpeptides No you cant feel Klotho, wether Jay says he has better sex.
My labs look good and the data is there that Klotho is a good longevity product.
So for right now Im continuing…
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@diegoc He’s still young-ish, but it’s a double whammy as you age. You have to eat more protein to get any sort of maintains, and your body doesn’t utilize protein as efficiently either. So the more the better. I have a really hard time eating the 180g a day I target.
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@diegoc naughty!
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@diegoc He’s still young-ish, but it’s a double whammy as you age. You have to eat more protein to get any sort of maintains, and your body doesn’t utilize protein as efficiently either. So the more the better. I have a really hard time eating the 180g a day I target.
@ResearchCat brother i had the same problem, so i added milk and protein powder or greek yogurt.
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Yep; I eat at least 8 oz full fat Greek yogurt, 8 oz ground turkey, and 1 protein shake almost every day in addition to whatever other meals I eat. Even then it’s tough because the American diet doesn’t lend itself to protein and most restaraunt servings give you at best 4-6 oz of meat.
I just need to get a lot better at meal prep and making food i am not sick of by mid-week..
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Over and over and over again, doctors and influencers will tell you that proper sleep, diet, and lifting heavy things are the best thing you can do for hormonal balance and overall well-being. There are even arguments to be made that all this peptide nonsense is just driving you to get better sleep and eat better, which leads to the results you want.
TL;DR - and no, I am not your real dad (
), but if you know your test is tanking because of lifestyle issues, try to solve that organically before you spend a ton of money on peps and other stuff.I was talking to a urologist yesterday and they were saying a large swing(drop) in T levels from one test to another could be just due to short term stuff and doesn’t necessarily warrant TRT.
Sorry I am rambling. Seth Capehart made a video recently that basically says what I said above, and what @diegoc is saying. Do lift, eat, and sleep for 6 months and if you don’t feel great and have good labs, then dive down the rabbit hole.
Over and over and over again, doctors and influencers will tell you that proper sleep, diet, and lifting heavy things are the best thing you can do for hormonal balance and overall well-being. There are even arguments to be made that all this peptide nonsense is just driving you to get better sleep and eat better, which leads to the results you want.
TL;DR - and no, I am not your real dad (
), but if you know your test is tanking because of lifestyle issues, try to solve that organically before you spend a ton of money on peps and other stuff.I was talking to a urologist yesterday and they were saying a large swing(drop) in T levels from one test to another could be just due to short term stuff and doesn’t necessarily warrant TRT.
Sorry I am rambling. Seth Capehart made a video recently that basically says what I said above, and what @diegoc is saying. Do lift, eat, and sleep for 6 months and if you don’t feel great and have good labs, then dive down the rabbit hole.
You're right but unfortunately I do not have the willpower to leave a toxic situation that is slowly killing me, yet I have the willpower to strap on 40lbs and run and not stop. Wish I had that determination and fortitude in my relationship.
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@denti So i was heavy maybe not as heavy as you were but I lost 30+ lbs.
Obviously the Gym is key for muscle growth but my skin was sagging a little as well and about 6months in the GH and GHK started tightening some.
For those really heavy ppl and loose skin, i would build muscle then see the options for further skin enhancement.
Im 55 and i will probably do a little something on my face after i see when i get to 8% BF
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Yep; I eat at least 8 oz full fat Greek yogurt, 8 oz ground turkey, and 1 protein shake almost every day in addition to whatever other meals I eat. Even then it’s tough because the American diet doesn’t lend itself to protein and most restaraunt servings give you at best 4-6 oz of meat.
I just need to get a lot better at meal prep and making food i am not sick of by mid-week..
@ResearchCat yeah i meal prep all my ground beef and chicken.
Eggs and ground beef are my staple breakfast
Chicken for lunch
Yorgut and protein for post workout
Beef or fish for dinner -
@diegoc Are you on testosterone and/or any mitochondrial peps?
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