Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)

[vpeps]

@ResearchCat I wonder if using Luer Lock needle leaves some liquid in the tip of the needle? I actually think, if you are using 0.5 ml, the amount you would lose with a shorter needle with a regular insulin syringe is not significant at that concentration.

[ResearchCat]

For most of those, you just select Individual researcher and that is it. There isn’t any actual verification that you own a lab coat and have a rat collection.

[ResearchCat]

@vpep yeah, I figure there will be a small amount of loss either way, but I find I can usually get all of the juice out with a long needle pulling from the bottom rather than pulling from an inverted vial at the top.

I don’t care if I lose a few units on a $30 vial, but Cell Factors ain’t cheap. Either way, I’ll sort it out, but thought I’d solicit the team since others probably have more experience with it than I do.

[diegoc]

@ResearchCat hey brother.

I hear you, it’s liquid gold

I use alot of luer locks with different type of needles, and yes there is a loss in the tip, how much, dont know however you have some options.

Load it in a pen cartridge and you loose a tiny bit as well or load the cell factors vial with 1.5 water and pull 1/2 and 1/2 with a 31g 6mm syringe and get 0 waste but a couple of dull pokes

Its probably worth doing it that way

[diegoc]

So your using 2 new syringes

[SpaceGhost]

Snort that shit!1

[ResearchCat]

@diegoc Thx, yeah, I was thinking more dilution would be less loss, and with a longer needle it probably shouldn’t be as bad. It’s a trade off either way.

[ResearchCat]

@lmao, this stuff costs way more than coke.

[Paul_C]

@ResearchCat For most research sites, your advice is valid and I agree. This particular site, the process requires a bit more details around intended study of work within certain parameters in order to be approved.

[Stones67]

@Paul_C
This sounds like something relatively new. I don't recall having to add much when I made my account. If asked by one of these sites I usually respond with a snarky reason like "Independent, Pre-clinical research on swole" or some other dipshit comment. Hopefully the dude on the other end gets a chuckle.

[mole]

@ResearchCat The last 2 months of glp1 (terzepatide) I lost 2 more inches off my waist, but stayed the same weight - so that showed me muscle gain. 3 days/wk 75 minutes heavy weights push to failure. 63 yrs and it whips me, but sure feel good. Point being, glp1 working while I'm taking 3mg/wk flgr242

[mole]

Meant, flgr242 working while on Terzepatide.

[ImaFrogNotaRat]

@vpep It's not just that. There are Terumo low-dead space needles as well. There is a trick to salvaging the last few drops from within your needle. Once you have filled your syringe, aspirate about 0.05 to 0.1 mL of air into your syringe. Holding the syringe with the needle attached and pointing DOWNWARD, flick the syringe body with your finger until the bubble moves upward toward the plunger. This is tricky with narrow lumen syringes as you may just flick more bubbles into it (because of surface tension). Another method I sometimes employ is to flick the entire syringe (capped needle) like you would an old-fashioned mercury thermometer. The centrifugal force will move the denser liquid toward the hub, and the air will remain between your liquid and plunger.

When you inject, the last thing to enter your needle will be that air bubble, which will push the remaining liquid into you. The needle you toss in the sharps container will just have air.

[ImaFrogNotaRat]

@SpaceGhost Be that as it may, if it is indeed true through this "backdoor" link, it is now twice as expensive with that Labor Day sale gone.

I went on FOH, and one of his admins said there are no active talks about bringing it back. I can't tell if this just a marketing ploy or what. Perhaps they didn't expect all of us to see the value in this, and trying to move their FLGR242 product? This is just a guess. Just have to wait for another holiday special.

[ResearchCat]

@mole Yep, I understand. The point is that in many cases, people are running extreme calorie deficits while on GLP-1’s, which makes it difficult to get enough calories and protein on board to build muscle.

In one of the Dr Jones videos a while back, he was talking about studies showing the difference between what people on GLP-1’s thought they were eating vs what they were eating. In many cases, people were eating 800-1000 calories a day for weeks and thinking they were eating more alike 1,600.

If you are micro-dosing or exceptional, you can probably manage it. I am just pointing out the concern.

Great job.

[vpeps]

@ImaFrogNotaRat This product is not really needed. If you need vitamin B, just get it anywhere separately. What people need is FLGR242 to dose it as needed, not thinking about how much vitamin B you'll get with it. If you need 6 mg a week, with SlimAssist you get a horse dose of vitamin B, unneeded and not safe. They got rid of this product, now they just need to adjust the price of their FLGR242 to be a more attractive buy.

[ResearchCat]

@vpep Yep, I am sure that most people buying SlimAssist were buying it as an arbitrage on the price of FLGR and don’t give a hoot about the vitamin B. And the BLL people are probably smart enough to know that.

[vpeps]

I am on my 4th week on SlimAssist. I took 2 mg the 1st week, that was too much, so I skipped a week and took 1 mg on the 3rd week. That felt good. So I tried 2 mg this week, and it's too much again. I am pumped up like a ball and every muscle hurts. I will go back to 1 mg.

[diegoc]

@mole hey brother…

Its pretty incredible when your building muscle and loosing fat, trust me its tricky.

I went 3 months on a 1lb difference on the scale and it was as like 10lbs of muscle and all the fat loss.

So in the beginning the scale is pretty much the only thing your really using to see progress, because imagine the calipers on the belly if your really over weight.

I tell everyone, take pictures weekly in the same spot, no eating and log in everything.

In the beginning I was actually measuring my belly but I gave up on that, what really works is,

Pictures, Calipers, and the scale but pictures tell you whats really happening

[ResearchCat]

Cell Factor #1 down. Process seems to have worked pretty well. 30g 1.5” needle to reconstitute and draw. 31g 8mm needle to inject. 1ml luer lock syringe. Not the most comfortable jab ever, but no apparent juice wasted.

Note that the plunger on this particular syringe has an extension that apparently serves to eliminate the dead space at the end of the lock so there isn’t much left in the intersection where the syringe engages the needle.