Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)
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@vpep yeah, I figure there will be a small amount of loss either way, but I find I can usually get all of the juice out with a long needle pulling from the bottom rather than pulling from an inverted vial at the top.
I don’t care if I lose a few units on a $30 vial, but Cell Factors ain’t cheap. Either way, I’ll sort it out, but thought I’d solicit the team since others probably have more experience with it than I do.
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@vpep yeah, I figure there will be a small amount of loss either way, but I find I can usually get all of the juice out with a long needle pulling from the bottom rather than pulling from an inverted vial at the top.
I don’t care if I lose a few units on a $30 vial, but Cell Factors ain’t cheap. Either way, I’ll sort it out, but thought I’d solicit the team since others probably have more experience with it than I do.
@ResearchCat hey brother.
I hear you, it’s liquid gold
I use alot of luer locks with different type of needles, and yes there is a loss in the tip, how much, dont know however you have some options.
Load it in a pen cartridge and you loose a tiny bit as well or load the cell factors vial with 1.5 water and pull 1/2 and 1/2 with a 31g 6mm syringe and get 0 waste but a couple of dull pokes
Its probably worth doing it that way
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@ResearchCat hey brother.
I hear you, it’s liquid gold
I use alot of luer locks with different type of needles, and yes there is a loss in the tip, how much, dont know however you have some options.
Load it in a pen cartridge and you loose a tiny bit as well or load the cell factors vial with 1.5 water and pull 1/2 and 1/2 with a 31g 6mm syringe and get 0 waste but a couple of dull pokes
Its probably worth doing it that way
@diegoc Thx, yeah, I was thinking more dilution would be less loss, and with a longer needle it probably shouldn’t be as bad. It’s a trade off either way.
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@lmao, this stuff costs way more than coke.
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@vpep yeah, I figure there will be a small amount of loss either way, but I find I can usually get all of the juice out with a long needle pulling from the bottom rather than pulling from an inverted vial at the top.
I don’t care if I lose a few units on a $30 vial, but Cell Factors ain’t cheap. Either way, I’ll sort it out, but thought I’d solicit the team since others probably have more experience with it than I do.
@ResearchCat For most research sites, your advice is valid and I agree. This particular site, the process requires a bit more details around intended study of work within certain parameters in order to be approved.
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@ResearchCat For most research sites, your advice is valid and I agree. This particular site, the process requires a bit more details around intended study of work within certain parameters in order to be approved.
@Paul_C
This sounds like something relatively new. I don't recall having to add much when I made my account. If asked by one of these sites I usually respond with a snarky reason like "Independent, Pre-clinical research on swole" or some other dipshit comment. Hopefully the dude on the other end gets a chuckle. -
@diegoc You know, I was thinking something like this this morning and almost posted, but then my day went sideways. I think a lot of people may not think about the fact that they are effectively cutting depending on their GLP-1 dosing while also taking GHRH, FLGR, and other things that indicate a build phase. I know I don’t alway do it right.
Practically speaking, I need to design my cycles better so that i am hitting my calories and working out right when using FLGR and GHRH. Especially since my last cycle, I got more defined but didn’t meaningfully build muscle, and that can probably be attributed to not eating enough to support the load I was putting on.
My peptide bestie just finished a bit of a build phase, he gained 5 lbs, but 8 was gained muscle and he lost 3 lbs of fat. That’s a win.
Thanks for bringing it up!
@ResearchCat The last 2 months of glp1 (terzepatide) I lost 2 more inches off my waist, but stayed the same weight - so that showed me muscle gain. 3 days/wk 75 minutes heavy weights push to failure. 63 yrs and it whips me, but sure feel good. Point being, glp1 working while I'm taking 3mg/wk flgr242
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@ResearchCat I wonder if using Luer Lock needle leaves some liquid in the tip of the needle? I actually think, if you are using 0.5 ml, the amount you would lose with a shorter needle with a regular insulin syringe is not significant at that concentration.
@vpep It's not just that. There are Terumo low-dead space needles as well. There is a trick to salvaging the last few drops from within your needle. Once you have filled your syringe, aspirate about 0.05 to 0.1 mL of air into your syringe. Holding the syringe with the needle attached and pointing DOWNWARD, flick the syringe body with your finger until the bubble moves upward toward the plunger. This is tricky with narrow lumen syringes as you may just flick more bubbles into it (because of surface tension). Another method I sometimes employ is to flick the entire syringe (capped needle) like you would an old-fashioned mercury thermometer. The centrifugal force will move the denser liquid toward the hub, and the air will remain between your liquid and plunger.
When you inject, the last thing to enter your needle will be that air bubble, which will push the remaining liquid into you. The needle you toss in the sharps container will just have air.
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@SpaceGhost Be that as it may, if it is indeed true through this "backdoor" link, it is now twice as expensive with that Labor Day sale gone.
I went on FOH, and one of his admins said there are no active talks about bringing it back. I can't tell if this just a marketing ploy or what. Perhaps they didn't expect all of us to see the value in this, and trying to move their FLGR242 product? This is just a guess. Just have to wait for another holiday special.
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@ResearchCat The last 2 months of glp1 (terzepatide) I lost 2 more inches off my waist, but stayed the same weight - so that showed me muscle gain. 3 days/wk 75 minutes heavy weights push to failure. 63 yrs and it whips me, but sure feel good. Point being, glp1 working while I'm taking 3mg/wk flgr242
@mole Yep, I understand. The point is that in many cases, people are running extreme calorie deficits while on GLP-1’s, which makes it difficult to get enough calories and protein on board to build muscle.
In one of the Dr Jones videos a while back, he was talking about studies showing the difference between what people on GLP-1’s thought they were eating vs what they were eating. In many cases, people were eating 800-1000 calories a day for weeks and thinking they were eating more alike 1,600.
If you are micro-dosing or exceptional, you can probably manage it. I am just pointing out the concern.
Great job.
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@SpaceGhost Be that as it may, if it is indeed true through this "backdoor" link, it is now twice as expensive with that Labor Day sale gone.
I went on FOH, and one of his admins said there are no active talks about bringing it back. I can't tell if this just a marketing ploy or what. Perhaps they didn't expect all of us to see the value in this, and trying to move their FLGR242 product? This is just a guess. Just have to wait for another holiday special.
@ImaFrogNotaRat This product is not really needed. If you need vitamin B, just get it anywhere separately. What people need is FLGR242 to dose it as needed, not thinking about how much vitamin B you'll get with it. If you need 6 mg a week, with SlimAssist you get a horse dose of vitamin B, unneeded and not safe. They got rid of this product, now they just need to adjust the price of their FLGR242 to be a more attractive buy.
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@vpep Yep, I am sure that most people buying SlimAssist were buying it as an arbitrage on the price of FLGR and don’t give a hoot about the vitamin B. And the BLL people are probably smart enough to know that.
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I am on my 4th week on SlimAssist. I took 2 mg the 1st week, that was too much, so I skipped a week and took 1 mg on the 3rd week. That felt good. So I tried 2 mg this week, and it's too much again. I am pumped up like a ball and every muscle hurts. I will go back to 1 mg.
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@ResearchCat The last 2 months of glp1 (terzepatide) I lost 2 more inches off my waist, but stayed the same weight - so that showed me muscle gain. 3 days/wk 75 minutes heavy weights push to failure. 63 yrs and it whips me, but sure feel good. Point being, glp1 working while I'm taking 3mg/wk flgr242
@mole hey brother…
Its pretty incredible when your building muscle and loosing fat, trust me its tricky.
I went 3 months on a 1lb difference on the scale and it was as like 10lbs of muscle and all the fat loss.
So in the beginning the scale is pretty much the only thing your really using to see progress, because imagine the calipers on the belly if your really over weight.
I tell everyone, take pictures weekly in the same spot, no eating and log in everything.
In the beginning I was actually measuring my belly but I gave up on that, what really works is,
Pictures, Calipers, and the scale but pictures tell you whats really happening
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Cell Factor #1 down. Process seems to have worked pretty well. 30g 1.5” needle to reconstitute and draw. 31g 8mm needle to inject. 1ml luer lock syringe. Not the most comfortable jab ever, but no apparent juice wasted.
Note that the plunger on this particular syringe has an extension that apparently serves to eliminate the dead space at the end of the lock so there isn’t much left in the intersection where the syringe engages the needle.
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@ImaFrogNotaRat This product is not really needed. If you need vitamin B, just get it anywhere separately. What people need is FLGR242 to dose it as needed, not thinking about how much vitamin B you'll get with it. If you need 6 mg a week, with SlimAssist you get a horse dose of vitamin B, unneeded and not safe. They got rid of this product, now they just need to adjust the price of their FLGR242 to be a more attractive buy.
@vpeptides I'm totally not concerned about the Vitamin B. Yes, it's water soluble, and yes, I get more than I need in methylated form orally. I get Thorne wholesale. The only reason I was attracted to it, was the buy 10 get 15 free. The FLGR242, which I've been using, has just been much more expensive.
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Well, I’ve been looking into FLGR-242 since I first heard about it about a month ago while scrolling through YouTube videos. I was intrigued, but reading through this thread finally pushed me over the edge, and I took advantage of the Labor Day sale on BLL.
I feel like I’m stepping into territory I’m not very familiar with, though. Looking at the cakes in each vial, I noticed they seem pretty crumbly, which isn’t something I’m used to seeing with peptides.
So I wanted to ask those in the community who have been researching with FLGR-242: is this normal for this product? Is a crumbly-looking cake typical for FLGR-242, or should I be concerned about what I’m seeing?
Especially considering how much these cost per vial, I figured it was worth asking. This is normally way too rich for my blood! I’m definitely not used to spending this much on a single vial.
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