AOD9604
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@afkar7 after taking twice the normal dose for a few months i aliken it to something like taking a ibuprofen for a gunshot wound. Did it do something? Sure. But did you notice it? No. Did it move the needle toward significance? Also No. taps are playing and the bagpipes screech in the background.
I always hold any new expense up against stuff i know works unequivocally. For example...
Could you buy hgh about as cheaply as this? Depends on which telegram temu luci lu is calling you honey that night . But Yes.
Would it make far bigger changes... be it small weight loss and large muscle gain? Also Yes.
Is there far more sideffects? Yes with an asterix of what dosages are you fooling with.I think since takin reta i hold everything to that standard of quality of life change. With my budget i cant tolerate nore afford bullshit. And tbh i dislike pincuossioning my self excessively.
Tldr. If it works for someone else all the power to them. But for me nah. Specially with better stuff easily accessible.
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@afkar7 I haven't personally used it yet, but I have some in waiting and I've done a metric ton of reading about it. Most people think it sucks b/c they used it solo and the trials would confirm this as the results also sucked. That said, you need to pair it with something like Reta. You also need to have a wide fasting window of 2-3 hours before and after your dose. If you can dose and workout, even better. It's a fat mobilizer, but only works well if you use it correctly as explained above. So those of you who are already lean and trying to get the missing 2 pack for your 8 pack, this is for you. Those of you that have a lot of weight to lose, I don't see AOD moving the needle that much. Reta will do it all on it's own. If you plateau, then AOD has a role as well. But first fix that fucking diet....no sugars no grains no seed oils. Sleep as matters b/c if your cortisol is always elevated, you ain't getting rid of that belly fat. Thus poor sleep and elevated cortisol is your enemy.
Also, AOD is a notorious pain in the ass for recon. Make sure you have Acetic Acid 0.6% and BAC water. For a 5mg vial I'd use 1ml of each and use the AA first.
You also need to have a wide fasting window of 2-3 hours before and after your dose. If you can dose and workout, even better.
So I don't eat after 7 p.m. and I have worked out in the a.m fasted for years now. Workout is usually in the 9-10 a.m. window. I then won't eat again until after 12 so that's not an issue for me. I am also currently researching Reta. I don't have a lot of weight to lose, I'm 5'8" 154lb. Was curious if this could help tighten up the mid section to see if I could even get a two pack.
Appreciated the feedback. That goes for all that did respond, thanks.
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@quicksilver80 Would you put another peptide as a better fit or just the full HGH?
@krisacero im broke so i dont do either. But id rather use some of the more life changing peps/meds if i had that choice. Gh has so many benefits and downsides that its one of those you seriously see as a hammer for alot of your issues. It was more a good example. Why would i do turk or sarm equivalents when test is a thing. Same idea. Aod is just a gh fragment. Just do the full monty. Low dose. And get better positive effects?
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Yes, it did gel with adding Acetic Acid and was quick to send out two bottles and some new Acetic Acid. I haven’t reconstituted any new vials yet. Using just BAC water from another vendor seemed to be just fine, when I tried the third vial. It would be good to know the acetate content in the lyophilozed material.
Do not use their Acetic Acid. I believe it is bad or not correct for the AOD.
Chris the owner sent me 3 replacement vials of AOD and 2 new bottles of Acetic Acid (Black caps AA). The AA I had originally ordered from them with my 25 vials of AOD was the blue caps AA. That caused 3 of my AOD from them to gel. He said it was a new batch but the batch number is the same?? Anyways first replacement vial with the black cap AA did not gel but did not reconstitute properly. Cloudy and floaters after several hours. I decided to do what Randy did in his AOD video and only did Hospira Bac alone this time, 3ml, and it reconstituted just fine. No gelling or cloudy.So in the end I believe it's their AA that is the problem. Emailed Chris the owner again that I believe the AA is the issue and if he could send me a replacement vial of the AOD that went bad again, but no reply. I buy in bulk, but will only purchase from them again if they replace any vials that are bad.
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I think the AOD has enough acetate in the lyophilized material. The last step is a salt exchange, TFA---> Acetic Acid. The ion pairing appears to persist during the lyophilization phase. I used BAC from a different vendor, and it seems to be stable, one week later. Chris did send me two more vials. I'll make sure I don't add the AA. I think we all solved this, Randy, showed this in his YouTube. Digging deeper, it makes sense that the acetate is around in the lyophilized product. Yay team!
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I think the AOD has enough acetate in the lyophilized material. The last step is a salt exchange, TFA---> Acetic Acid. The ion pairing appears to persist during the lyophilization phase. I used BAC from a different vendor, and it seems to be stable, one week later. Chris did send me two more vials. I'll make sure I don't add the AA. I think we all solved this, Randy, showed this in his YouTube. Digging deeper, it makes sense that the acetate is around in the lyophilized product. Yay team!
@daveeid303 the problem may be that the cheaper manufactures cut the corners and don't run that extra step to remove enough TFA. I have seen so far only one seller testing for TFA and another one claiming to remove residual TFA.
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@daveeid303 the problem may be that the cheaper manufactures cut the corners and don't run that extra step to remove enough TFA. I have seen so far only one seller testing for TFA and another one claiming to remove residual TFA.
@vpeptides
That's not reassuring. If these are dissolving in BAC, there is a high probability that the pH is low enough due to the TFA counterion. Yikes! -
You also need to have a wide fasting window of 2-3 hours before and after your dose. If you can dose and workout, even better.
So I don't eat after 7 p.m. and I have worked out in the a.m fasted for years now. Workout is usually in the 9-10 a.m. window. I then won't eat again until after 12 so that's not an issue for me. I am also currently researching Reta. I don't have a lot of weight to lose, I'm 5'8" 154lb. Was curious if this could help tighten up the mid section to see if I could even get a two pack.
Appreciated the feedback. That goes for all that did respond, thanks.
@afkar7 Yes. I'm on Reta too and in a similar boat where I'm trying to get the missing 2-pack to the 8-pack (5'11" / 167lbs). You and I are super similar in our fasting habits, so based on what you wrote AOD will be a perfect addition. Never use AOD by itself....the trials proved it's not very effective in this manner. My female lab rat found that HIIT workouts (assuming you are fat adapted) are more effective than zone 2 cardio with AOD, but both are effective at melting that fat.
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I have not used, but AOD users are raving about this AOD water: https://www.medicalbacwater.com/product-page/acetic-acid-bac-water-w-glycerin-10ml
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BTW, is anyone researching their AOD-9604 with a pen? Seems to be a little thicker and was wondering how well it works with the pens.
Thanks
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BTW, is anyone researching their AOD-9604 with a pen? Seems to be a little thicker and was wondering how well it works with the pens.
Thanks
BTW, is anyone researching their AOD-9604 with a pen? Seems to be a little thicker and was wondering how well it works with the pens.
Thanks
I’ve been using it in a Gansulin pen with 31g needles. Never an issue. In fact I think it’s better in a pen vs a vial as you prevent air from getting into it which I believe AOD hates.
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