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  • P PeptidePete

    @vpeptides said:

    @PeptidePete Do you have better sources, please? I pasted those to demonstrate that "oral" route is mentioned first relative to this molecule, possibly from the available research, but the evidence is weak. No safety studies, no human studies that I see. I wonder if there is more data somewhere on it.

    As alluded to up-thread I do not. That's the problem, we don't know absent a PK study. In lieu of that, I feel no choice but to err on the side of pinning it. Small molecules, as this is, are usually very amenable to 100% bioavailability with pinning. Bypassing the liver gives me more efficacy and keep my liver happier...lol πŸ˜‚

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    @PeptidePete it's tempting to try. The mechanistic argumentation is simple and understood. Some people would say the oral route is safer than subq, but what you say also a good argument. Isn't it the wild west of biomedicine? But there is no "Save"/"Reload" functionality in my body.

    attentiion is all you need

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      @randy I'm hearing you don't need to refrigerate 5 amino after you reconstitute, and then I hear it has to be in the fridge...what's your take on this?

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        As far as I know, NAD+ has minimal oral bioavailability. But it's good to hear 5-Amino-1MQ has an effect.

        attentiion is all you need

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        • B Bellaluca5675

          @randy I'm hearing you don't need to refrigerate 5 amino after you reconstitute, and then I hear it has to be in the fridge...what's your take on this?

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          brandenscheidecker
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          @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

          https://hvyresearch.com/

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          • B Bellaluca5675

            @randy I'm hearing you don't need to refrigerate 5 amino after you reconstitute, and then I hear it has to be in the fridge...what's your take on this?

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            Bellaluca5675
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            actually - from what i gathered, and to be specific - I was talking about 2000mg in a 20ml vial / what I've heard is its so concentrated that it gets chunky in the fridge. but 3ml/50mg vials should be refrigerated
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            • B brandenscheidecker

              @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

              https://hvyresearch.com/

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              Bellaluca5675
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              @brandenscheidecker thankyou for the confirmation ! I'm actually getting a 2000mg 20ml vial from Heavy and that's what I've gathered from people who've used it as well. I was quite confused about the whole thing and thanks for clarifying!

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              • B Bellaluca5675

                @randy I'm hearing you don't need to refrigerate 5 amino after you reconstitute, and then I hear it has to be in the fridge...what's your take on this?

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                @Bellaluca5675 I dont have data on this but dont need to and should not are the terms here. If there is data that says you should not that somthing id be interested in. Do not need to? Why not if it doesnt hurt.

                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                • vpepsV vpeps

                  I follow up with this question. You got me interested in 5-AMINO-1MQ, but I would prefer a capsule form, it seems like a lot of milligrams to inject. But does it work orally, and is it effective as 50 mg pill I can see for sale?

                  Also, what would be a good source? I see it here for $129, I wonder if it can be trusted.

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                  @vpeptides try chemyo I have had nothing but success with all of their offerings

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                  • B brandenscheidecker

                    @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

                    https://hvyresearch.com/

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                    @brandenscheidecker said:

                    @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

                    https://hvyresearch.com/

                    Makes sense: Small molecule vs peptide.

                    The liquid product they offer is interesting for those of us indulging in no less than 25mg per pin, thanks for referencing!

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                    • T thanks_enjoi

                      @vpeptides try chemyo I have had nothing but success with all of their offerings

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                      @thanks_enjoi do you have a reason to trust there is exactly what they listed and in such quantities in those bottles?

                      attentiion is all you need

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                      • vpepsV vpeps

                        @thanks_enjoi do you have a reason to trust there is exactly what they listed and in such quantities in those bottles?

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                        @vpeptides the only thing I go off of is ive used their products before, and reputation. Its an oral and my basic labs are always good. Just an option

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                        • B brandenscheidecker

                          @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

                          https://hvyresearch.com/

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                          @brandenscheidecker said:

                          @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

                          https://hvyresearch.com/

                          I've been researching 5 amino for a few months, and do feel it makes a difference.

                          Decided to order from HVY through the GB, bigger bang for the buck, patiently waiting for that order to come in πŸ™‚

                          β€œNot a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                            I got 50 mg capsules from Peptide Supply Co and I plan to try it soon.

                            attentiion is all you need

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                            • WisGal64W WisGal64

                              @brandenscheidecker said:

                              @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

                              https://hvyresearch.com/

                              I've been researching 5 amino for a few months, and do feel it makes a difference.

                              Decided to order from HVY through the GB, bigger bang for the buck, patiently waiting for that order to come in πŸ™‚

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                              @WisGal64 I think we are on the same GB. How will you research it? I have never taken it before. I believe I read shake well before use and don't refrigerate it. It looks like it is highly concentrated as well based on the mg/ml in the bottle.

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                                @shaqdiesel My plan is to research it the same way as I do now, 15 mg each morning on a fasted stomach. Seems to work best for me so far. There was a suggestion to split it up into smaller vials, with me being on a lower dose, I’m going to follow that. I guess you can freeze this, if I read correctly?

                                β€œNot a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                                • WisGal64W WisGal64

                                  @shaqdiesel My plan is to research it the same way as I do now, 15 mg each morning on a fasted stomach. Seems to work best for me so far. There was a suggestion to split it up into smaller vials, with me being on a lower dose, I’m going to follow that. I guess you can freeze this, if I read correctly?

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                                  @WisGal64 Not sure about the freezing. I am going to have to do a lot more research for sure prior to my order arriving. I guess that is the one good thing about a GB. You have plenty of time to get your protocol and storage questions answered.

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                                  • WisGal64W WisGal64

                                    @brandenscheidecker said:

                                    @Bellaluca5675 there is a company called Heavy amino, they make their 5 amino from raw powder not from lipolyzed vials. Heavy does not recommend refrigerating their product. were lipolyzed vials from china or every other vendor do require refrigerating the vials after being reconst. hope this helps, I had a long discussion with Heavy before purchasing their product.

                                    https://hvyresearch.com/

                                    I've been researching 5 amino for a few months, and do feel it makes a difference.

                                    Decided to order from HVY through the GB, bigger bang for the buck, patiently waiting for that order to come in πŸ™‚

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                                    @WisGal64 said:

                                    GB?

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                                      Good Banana?

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                                        @afkar7 @valgal Group Buy

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                                          Sorry I should have clarified, but banana sounds good 🀣. Thanks For clarifying @shaqdiesel

                                          β€œNot a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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