HGH 191AA
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@Randy Good to know, as I bought some tested at 96.97% and was concerned. It was also a big overfill: 24mg vile at 36.33mg?? Is that a common thing with HGH? Crappy about your Youtub channel.
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Thank you for sharing these results. 97% purity and overfilled, no drama in procuring from US warehouse. Definitely going to get more the next time it's available.
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@randy It is sold as 24iu HGH but the test results list it as 24mg and if you look at the description it almost looks like "Human Growth hormone fragr" . I will see if I have the ability to upload a photo, LOL. I bought some and sent a vial out for testing...should get the results next week. Thanks
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@Commander 3iu daily.
The only thing that really gave me joint soreness of any kind was Tesa.
@Commander 3iu daily.
The only thing that really gave me joint soreness of any kind was Tesa.
Likely scenario of joint soreness from Tesa was water retention via supraphysiological GH levels causing pressure in the joints. Which means you're experiencing a very favorable Tesa -> GHRH -> GH response chain.
Which would theoretically lead one to the obvious question of why switch to HGH when your pituitary still has a very favorable GHRH response? There are a whole host of reasons why to keep the endogenous system going via the pituitary for as long as possible.
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My igf1 levels barely moved on Tesa. Nothing supraphysiological happening to this rat.
HGH on the other hand cut weight, i dont get sore, my skin looks better, my brain works better and normies think i do roids.
My igf1 levels barely moved on Tesa. Nothing supraphysiological happening to this rat.
HGH on the other hand cut weight, i dont get sore, my skin looks better, my brain works better and normies think i do roids.
Interesting. Any ideas on the source of the joint pain from Tesa? And what does 3iu do to your igf-1 levels?
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My igf1 levels barely moved on Tesa. Nothing supraphysiological happening to this rat.
HGH on the other hand cut weight, i dont get sore, my skin looks better, my brain works better and normies think i do roids.
Interesting. Any ideas on the source of the joint pain from Tesa? And what does 3iu do to your igf-1 levels?
@Neil-McCauley When I had joint pains, it meant i was retaining too much water from Tesa. What's your current dose atm?
When I was dumb, I stacked Tesa and CJC/IPa and realized Tesa/CJC did the same thing , and that caused me to over dose it, which made all my joints hurt.
Since cutting down, joints have been fine.
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@Neil-McCauley When I had joint pains, it meant i was retaining too much water from Tesa. What's your current dose atm?
When I was dumb, I stacked Tesa and CJC/IPa and realized Tesa/CJC did the same thing , and that caused me to over dose it, which made all my joints hurt.
Since cutting down, joints have been fine.
@Neil-McCauley When I had joint pains, it meant i was retaining too much water from Tesa. What's your current dose atm?
When I was dumb, I stacked Tesa and CJC/IPa and realized Tesa/CJC did the same thing , and that caused me to over dose it, which made all my joints hurt.
Since cutting down, joints have been fine.
Right, but the water retention is from supraphysiological levels of GH. There isn't anything else about the drug that would lead to water retention outside of that. Hence my question above. If you're getting water retention issues from Tesa, it means it's working really well. Too well actually, you need to lower the dose.
Currently running CJC-1295/IPA at 150/150mcg.
When I switch over to Tesa/IPA it will be 1mg/300mcg. -
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My igf1 levels barely moved on Tesa. Nothing supraphysiological happening to this rat.
HGH on the other hand cut weight, i dont get sore, my skin looks better, my brain works better and normies think i do roids.
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@Randy
When on HGH or Tesa, what is a target igf level for max effectiveness? I know it is somewhat age dependent, but what level would be optimal for say some 40 and then someone 50?@Randy
When on HGH or Tesa, what is a target igf level for max effectiveness? I know it is somewhat age dependent, but what level would be optimal for say some 40 and then someone 50?Or someone 62 like myself? Would it be worth considering?
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@Randy
When on HGH or Tesa, what is a target igf level for max effectiveness? I know it is somewhat age dependent, but what level would be optimal for say some 40 and then someone 50?@Randy
When on HGH or Tesa, what is a target igf level for max effectiveness? I know it is somewhat age dependent, but what level would be optimal for say some 40 and then someone 50?Conservative sweet spot to maintain anti-aging while also balancing side effect concerns/cancer would be 180 - 220. At that range you're going to get all the benefits including improved sleep quality, tissue repair, healing, immune system function, while also minimizing risks. This range is applicable for all adults really. It would be a little in the low end for a growing adolescent, but for a full grown adult of all ages this is the level you're looking for.
If you're above that naturally good for you, I wouldn't worry about it unless it's way beyond the top range and you're experiencing side effects.
You're not going to see drastic changes in muscle mass/fat loss at that level, you're going to need to do the work to get that, but you're also going to put the side effect/cancer risk at that level to extremely minimal.
The real drastic changes you see with people on GH in terms of size come with levels in the 400 - 500 range. Personally I would not be comfortable long term pushing levels that high, the risk/reward ratio IMO is just not worth it.
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@PeptidePete hgh is a horribly misunderstood compound and therapeutic doses have changed my life. I appreciate you checking. Good with me. Lets just leave tren, var and equipoise out of the convo.
What dosage do you take? I had it in the past, 2iu made my hands go numb. I ended up giving all my kits away. My friends that got them were happy…
@Commander
I think I am finally getting HGH and dosing figured out a little. I split my dose AM and PM with a dosage of 1IU or a little over per day. What I am experiencing, is what I have been after for the past 2 years when I started the peptide journey. My Drive and overall physical wellbeing are back, and it is literally like rolling the clock back about 20 years.
The various peptides I cycle have been very helpful, but I think I underestimated the importance of getting the hormones optimized. About 4 months ago I started TRT. My TRT levels were high (930 and 1032 on the tests I took) but my doctor finally let me try it anyway. That helped quite a bit, but when I added the HGH it all clicked finally. I think there is a strong possibility that the HGH may be biggest help. I appreciate everyone's posts about this. Good Stuff -
@iMemphis18 SS31 kits I purchased from there were solid. Part of a group test, so all I can say is they were good results.
@flyhigh ss31 from where? Thanks in advance i just got some from ERP but after some research about the last batch (hopefully not my current batch) I need another solid choice.
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@randy The QSC HGH that is
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@Randy is this what they currently have?
@thanks_enjoi no. that sold out. they have a new batch...if you didnt move on it immediately you may not get it.
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@Commander
I think I am finally getting HGH and dosing figured out a little. I split my dose AM and PM with a dosage of 1IU or a little over per day. What I am experiencing, is what I have been after for the past 2 years when I started the peptide journey. My Drive and overall physical wellbeing are back, and it is literally like rolling the clock back about 20 years.
The various peptides I cycle have been very helpful, but I think I underestimated the importance of getting the hormones optimized. About 4 months ago I started TRT. My TRT levels were high (930 and 1032 on the tests I took) but my doctor finally let me try it anyway. That helped quite a bit, but when I added the HGH it all clicked finally. I think there is a strong possibility that the HGH may be biggest help. I appreciate everyone's posts about this. Good Stuff@Commander
I think I am finally getting HGH and dosing figured out a little. I split my dose AM and PM with a dosage of 1IU or a little over per day. What I am experiencing, is what I have been after for the past 2 years when I started the peptide journey. My Drive and overall physical wellbeing are back, and it is literally like rolling the clock back about 20 years.
The various peptides I cycle have been very helpful, but I think I underestimated the importance of getting the hormones optimized. About 4 months ago I started TRT. My TRT levels were high (930 and 1032 on the tests I took) but my doctor finally let me try it anyway. That helped quite a bit, but when I added the HGH it all clicked finally. I think there is a strong possibility that the HGH may be biggest help. I appreciate everyone's posts about this. Good StuffThanks for posting. Did you try any GH peptides prior to making the jump to HGH?
You might also consider perhaps lowering your TRT dose now that you're GH levels are boosted. Sweet spot for TRT is 600 - 900. Something to think about.
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@Commander
I think I am finally getting HGH and dosing figured out a little. I split my dose AM and PM with a dosage of 1IU or a little over per day. What I am experiencing, is what I have been after for the past 2 years when I started the peptide journey. My Drive and overall physical wellbeing are back, and it is literally like rolling the clock back about 20 years.
The various peptides I cycle have been very helpful, but I think I underestimated the importance of getting the hormones optimized. About 4 months ago I started TRT. My TRT levels were high (930 and 1032 on the tests I took) but my doctor finally let me try it anyway. That helped quite a bit, but when I added the HGH it all clicked finally. I think there is a strong possibility that the HGH may be biggest help. I appreciate everyone's posts about this. Good StuffThanks for posting. Did you try any GH peptides prior to making the jump to HGH?
You might also consider perhaps lowering your TRT dose now that you're GH levels are boosted. Sweet spot for TRT is 600 - 900. Something to think about.
@Neil-McCauley
I was thinking the same thing. My levels were way above the 600-900 range before I started. While initially it felt helpful, I think the HGH hits way harder, especially when combined with the IPA/TESA combo. I am able to use small doses of all 3 twice daily and the results are immediate and they are out of my system quickly. The TRT is much more difficult to work with because it works so slowly. I feel like the drive and workout capacity/recovery that I was seeking with TRT is being achieved HGH.
To answer your question, I have tried most all of the GH related peptides and while many things help, HGH seems to be in a different league. I cycle all the usual things as well SS31 Mots c Pinealon , epithalin etc. and I am always doing some kind of BCP stack to help with inflammation and recovery.
I think a lot of people may get better benefits from HGH than TRT providing your levels are not too low.
I always forget to mention that I have been taking peptides for 48 years (T1D LOL)
The last couple of years I have been testing all kinds of things to help repair the damage that occurs with being diabetic. It has been a very interesting. Most things are helpful but there are a few that don't seem to do anything.
I really wish I could get DSIP to work for me, good sleep is huge.
When you take insulin, it adds an extra dimension to the protocol, but it's worth it.
I am rambling here, are you contemplating HGH?
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