HGH 191AA
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@Randy
When on HGH or Tesa, what is a target igf level for max effectiveness? I know it is somewhat age dependent, but what level would be optimal for say some 40 and then someone 50?Conservative sweet spot to maintain anti-aging while also balancing side effect concerns/cancer would be 180 - 220. At that range you're going to get all the benefits including improved sleep quality, tissue repair, healing, immune system function, while also minimizing risks. This range is applicable for all adults really. It would be a little in the low end for a growing adolescent, but for a full grown adult of all ages this is the level you're looking for.
If you're above that naturally good for you, I wouldn't worry about it unless it's way beyond the top range and you're experiencing side effects.
You're not going to see drastic changes in muscle mass/fat loss at that level, you're going to need to do the work to get that, but you're also going to put the side effect/cancer risk at that level to extremely minimal.
The real drastic changes you see with people on GH in terms of size come with levels in the 400 - 500 range. Personally I would not be comfortable long term pushing levels that high, the risk/reward ratio IMO is just not worth it.
@commander and @randy
I’m a 60 yo female (I feel like I’m 40, for real) Peptides & BHRT are AWESOME! I was considering trying 1-2 iu of HGH (having read about all the benefits) but then I measured my igf-1 and it was 236. So, now I’m second-guessing myself and thinking that I probably shouldn’t with it that high.
️ What would you do if that was your test result? I DID try a vial of CJC/ipa, but that was like 18 months ago so I don’t think it’s affecting me now. I’m intrigued by the fact that you said even taking HGH didn’t raise your levels much. 
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I have to be careful with the dosages of HGH and hormone related peptides as they can counter act with insulin and will decrease insulin sensitivity. Keeping insulin doses to a minimum is not a recommended strategy for most diabetics. I stay on a healthy lo carb diet and am only require 20 total units of insulin daily. This is a very low dose, but it's necessary to have tight controls if I want to experiment with peptides and avoid interactions. I work with an endocrinologist and monitor blood work often. I do experiment with many things, but not recklessly. The start low and titrate up as indicated seems like a good way to go. Finding a sweet spot has taken me a long time, I hope I stay in the zone for a while.
But I think the short story is, if you want to try HGH and need it, it's worth it. If you recover quickly and feel good and have energy, maybe you don't need it. It seems like with peptides and such, if you don't need them, they won't do much.
I am 68 and know that age takes a toll, but these peptides can replace a lot of our functions that decline with age injury, disease or whatever. A year ago, I felt pretty beat up, and now it gets better every day. You still have to work at it but having the ability to work out and recover is huge. I'm a huge fan of rats and their behaviors' LOL -
Just did my second trt shot yesterday. First IM. Today my thigh feels like I did a lot of squats yesterday. That's surprising. I have hgh on order from a group buy. Where is a good resource that explains all the things I need to know? I'm also taking. .25mg anastrozol every other day according to doctor.
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Do any of the vendors sell HGH 191AA? I do not see it listed on any of the pricing indexes
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@Abepeppers747
Peak Labs seems to get good if not great reviews, and I have never seen purity at 99.9% on HGH before. It's usually 97 or so. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with them? -
@Abepeppers747
Peak Labs seems to get good if not great reviews, and I have never seen purity at 99.9% on HGH before. It's usually 97 or so. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with them?@CapmanCrunch all their batches of all sizes are 99.9% purity from BioViridian Lab. Not suspicious?
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Just did my second trt shot yesterday. First IM. Today my thigh feels like I did a lot of squats yesterday. That's surprising. I have hgh on order from a group buy. Where is a good resource that explains all the things I need to know? I'm also taking. .25mg anastrozol every other day according to doctor.
@Hammertime65
Did you notice any effects from the TRT after injections? a little boost or uplifting feeling.
What dose are you on?
You get used to the IM injections after a few. I use the 23 gauge 1 " 3ml syringes usually, but some people like the U100 1/2" in the shoulder. I have trouble getting shorter needles into muscle.
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@CapmanCrunch all their batches of all sizes are 99.9% purity from BioViridian Lab. Not suspicious?
@vpeptides
Exactly!!!
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@CMEffie17
I have to be careful with the dosages of HGH and hormone related peptides as they can counter act with insulin and will decrease insulin sensitivity. Keeping insulin doses to a minimum is not a recommended strategy for most diabetics. I stay on a healthy lo carb diet and am only require 20 total units of insulin daily. This is a very low dose, but it's necessary to have tight controls if I want to experiment with peptides and avoid interactions. I work with an endocrinologist and monitor blood work often. I do experiment with many things, but not recklessly. The start low and titrate up as indicated seems like a good way to go. Finding a sweet spot has taken me a long time, I hope I stay in the zone for a while.
But I think the short story is, if you want to try HGH and need it, it's worth it. If you recover quickly and feel good and have energy, maybe you don't need it. It seems like with peptides and such, if you don't need them, they won't do much.
I am 68 and know that age takes a toll, but these peptides can replace a lot of our functions that decline with age injury, disease or whatever. A year ago, I felt pretty beat up, and now it gets better every day. You still have to work at it but having the ability to work out and recover is huge. I'm a huge fan of rats and their behaviors' LOL@CapmanCrunch Thanks for writing about your experience, I appreciate it. I had a diabetic cat and was trying to tightly regulate him, but it was very difficult even on basically a 100% protein diet. So I know it can be very difficult. I’m really glad that peptides have helped you feel much better, which has been my experience as well. I think I’m going to hold off until I read a lot more about other people’s experiences with HGH … I’d love to just get all the benefits, but I don’t want to explore it yet without knowing all the possible downsides. Thanks again!
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@CapmanCrunch Thanks for writing about your experience, I appreciate it. I had a diabetic cat and was trying to tightly regulate him, but it was very difficult even on basically a 100% protein diet. So I know it can be very difficult. I’m really glad that peptides have helped you feel much better, which has been my experience as well. I think I’m going to hold off until I read a lot more about other people’s experiences with HGH … I’d love to just get all the benefits, but I don’t want to explore it yet without knowing all the possible downsides. Thanks again!
@CMEffie17
I started with IPA/TESA and the other GH peptides and did various combos like that until I stumbled onto HGH a few months ago. I think it make sense to go slow and keep trying until you find what works for you. I still use other GH Peps stacked with the HGH to help keep my dose down. I think you're on the right track. -
Just did my second trt shot yesterday. First IM. Today my thigh feels like I did a lot of squats yesterday. That's surprising. I have hgh on order from a group buy. Where is a good resource that explains all the things I need to know? I'm also taking. .25mg anastrozol every other day according to doctor.
@Hammertime65 do not take an AI if you dont have to. AI'S do more harm than good. TRT doses of around 150mg or less shouldn't need an AI. I would recommend DIM. Its a supplement. I can be around test with 1400ng dl and be around 40 estradial and even less with DIM.
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@Commander
I think I am finally getting HGH and dosing figured out a little. I split my dose AM and PM with a dosage of 1IU or a little over per day. What I am experiencing, is what I have been after for the past 2 years when I started the peptide journey. My Drive and overall physical wellbeing are back, and it is literally like rolling the clock back about 20 years.
The various peptides I cycle have been very helpful, but I think I underestimated the importance of getting the hormones optimized. About 4 months ago I started TRT. My TRT levels were high (930 and 1032 on the tests I took) but my doctor finally let me try it anyway. That helped quite a bit, but when I added the HGH it all clicked finally. I think there is a strong possibility that the HGH may be biggest help. I appreciate everyone's posts about this. Good StuffThanks for posting. Did you try any GH peptides prior to making the jump to HGH?
You might also consider perhaps lowering your TRT dose now that you're GH levels are boosted. Sweet spot for TRT is 600 - 900. Something to think about.
@Neil-McCauley a doctor would never put you on trt if your test was that high. Maybe a TRT clinic as they are today's version of pill mills. You literally will mess your endocrine system up badly to take TRT if you had those levels of test as now you are shutting off your need to produce testosterone just to have it injected in you for pretty much the same levels
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And TRT is probably the single best thing a man can introduce to his body if he is in need of it.
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@vpeptides
Exactly!!!
I have never seen HGH much above 97@CapmanCrunch I've seen 98% purity from Lobster, per Janoshik.
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@vpeptides
Exactly!!!
I have never seen HGH much above 97I contacted the company and they have 3rd party testing for HGH going on now should be available in 3 days. I will post when I receive it.
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@Hammertime65 do not take an AI if you dont have to. AI'S do more harm than good. TRT doses of around 150mg or less shouldn't need an AI. I would recommend DIM. Its a supplement. I can be around test with 1400ng dl and be around 40 estradial and even less with DIM.
@Hammertime65 do not take an AI if you dont have to. AI'S do more harm than good. TRT doses of around 150mg or less shouldn't need an AI. I would recommend DIM. Its a supplement. I can be around test with 1400ng dl and be around 40 estradial and even less with DIM.
Agreed. I have found that maintaining a low bf% to be extremely effective at keeping estradiol levels in range, as effective as a low dose AI.
If you're on an AI or need one, I'd try a GLP before I'd go the AI route.
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Anyone here ever tried HGH from PenguinPeptides? Any positive results? I’m sure it can be purchased cheaper through different channels, but I remember Penguin having decent reviews when they were on the Vendor-Directory here. I’d be willing to pay a little more in order to use a card… at least to give HGH a trial-run. What say you?
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Anyone here ever tried HGH from PenguinPeptides? Any positive results? I’m sure it can be purchased cheaper through different channels, but I remember Penguin having decent reviews when they were on the Vendor-Directory here. I’d be willing to pay a little more in order to use a card… at least to give HGH a trial-run. What say you?
@Jake_PepTron I think their current batch is 96% for the 36 IU. I have one here, waiting for the CJC/IPA to run out.
"FDA approved? Is that cigarette FDA approved?"
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@Jake_PepTron I think their current batch is 96% for the 36 IU. I have one here, waiting for the CJC/IPA to run out.
@elijahkpaugh Yea, I noticed the 15iu had 97.749% as well. I’m thinkin I might roll the dice. Not the lowest price/iu on earth, but worth testing out a few vials to see how things feel. Waiting on latest bloodwork first.
Remember: there are no peptides that can fill the emptiness inside your cold heart.
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