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  • WisGal64W WisGal64

    @melaniestringfellow said in How to Post in Peptide Discussion:

    I am asking about peptide storage in general for research purposes. How long can an un constituted peptide, sealed in the glass be stored for?

    Lyophilized vials are stable for years in the freezer for years, given the proper storage techniques. I put desiccant packets in with them in a hydra peak. Same applies for Refrigerated, but only for a few months is what I've read.

    Keep in mind, the freeze thaw cycles cause degradation, so you want to minimize.

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    @WisGal64 said:

    @melaniestringfellow said in How to Post in Peptide Discussion:

    I am asking about peptide storage in general for research purposes. How long can an un constituted peptide, sealed in the glass be stored for?

    Lyophilized vials are stable for years in the freezer for years, given the proper storage techniques. I put desiccant packets in with them in a hydra peak. Same applies for Refrigerated, but only for a few months is what I've read.

    Keep in mind, the freeze thaw cycles cause degradation, so you want to minimize.

    I wonder if there are any tests behing the "freeze/thaw" cycle of a household refrigerator being better or worse than just keep your peps in the fridge.

    I also wonder if desiccant packs are needed really.

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      For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

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      • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

        For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

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        @Mydogdaryl423 said:

        For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

        i feel like the rubber stopper would struggle more in the freezer than the fridge

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          @WisGal64 said:

          @melaniestringfellow said in How to Post in Peptide Discussion:

          I am asking about peptide storage in general for research purposes. How long can an un constituted peptide, sealed in the glass be stored for?

          Lyophilized vials are stable for years in the freezer for years, given the proper storage techniques. I put desiccant packets in with them in a hydra peak. Same applies for Refrigerated, but only for a few months is what I've read.

          Keep in mind, the freeze thaw cycles cause degradation, so you want to minimize.

          I wonder if there are any tests behing the "freeze/thaw" cycle of a household refrigerator being better or worse than just keep your peps in the fridge.

          I also wonder if desiccant packs are needed really.

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          @dispensarysupport said:

          I use desiccant packs, too.
          I have some unorganized overflow vials that got separated from the packets and the one I reconstituted was gummy. I have no clue if that is coincidence, but the packets are cheap so why not use them.

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            @WisGal64 said:

            @melaniestringfellow said in How to Post in Peptide Discussion:

            I am asking about peptide storage in general for research purposes. How long can an un constituted peptide, sealed in the glass be stored for?

            Lyophilized vials are stable for years in the freezer for years, given the proper storage techniques. I put desiccant packets in with them in a hydra peak. Same applies for Refrigerated, but only for a few months is what I've read.

            Keep in mind, the freeze thaw cycles cause degradation, so you want to minimize.

            I wonder if there are any tests behing the "freeze/thaw" cycle of a household refrigerator being better or worse than just keep your peps in the fridge.

            I also wonder if desiccant packs are needed really.

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            dispensarysupport said:

            @WisGal64 said:

            @melaniestringfellow said in How to Post in Peptide Discussion:

            I am asking about peptide storage in general for research purposes. How long can an un constituted peptide, sealed in the glass be stored for?

            Lyophilized vials are stable for years in the freezer for years, given the proper storage techniques. I put desiccant packets in with them in a hydra peak. Same applies for Refrigerated, but only for a few months is what I've read.

            Keep in mind, the freeze thaw cycles cause degradation, so you want to minimize.

            I wonder if there are any tests behing the "freeze/thaw" cycle of a household refrigerator being better or worse than just keep your peps in the fridge.

            I also wonder if desiccant packs are needed really.

            Good question, I'd imagine there are, just haven't come across them. Same question for not storing them in the fridge or freezer, just in a cool dark place.

            There is an interview with Jano where he found peps in his garage that were about 10 y/o if I remember correctly, and he tested them, the degradation was minimal. I'm testing this out with an extra kit of GHK, it's been about 4 months storing at room temp with packets. Reconned one this past week, this doesn't speak to degradation, but I can say it hasn't lost it's sting lol

            “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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            • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

              For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

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              @Mydogdaryl423 said:

              For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

              if its something your opening weekly/daily in a sealed container you should be replacing it every few weeks since it degrades fairly quickly

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              • M MikeMiranda

                @Mydogdaryl423 said:

                For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

                if its something your opening weekly/daily in a sealed container you should be replacing it every few weeks since it degrades fairly quickly

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                @MikeMiranda said:

                @Mydogdaryl423 said:

                For the cost of them seems like a no brainer to keep added moisture locked away. Cheapest thing I've bought.

                if its something your opening weekly/daily in a sealed container you should be replacing it every few weeks since it degrades fairly quickly

                This is long term freezer storage. They aren't being opened daily or weekly. The dessicant packs I bought change color if they have retained moisture. No reason to replace if the storage container hasn't been opened and the packs themselves are still dry.

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                  Anybody familiar with starting dose of Tesamorelin/Ipamorelinblend 15 mg?

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                    Anybody familiar with starting dose of Tesamorelin/Ipamorelinblend 15 mg?

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                    @lindysides do you know the ratio? is it 10 + 5 or different? In any case, you may try 1.5 mg of the blend because it will give you about 1 mg of tesa and about 0.5 mg of Ipa, which is enough. Or you may even start with 1.0 mg total for the beginning to test the waters.

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                      @lindysides do you know the ratio? is it 10 + 5 or different? In any case, you may try 1.5 mg of the blend because it will give you about 1 mg of tesa and about 0.5 mg of Ipa, which is enough. Or you may even start with 1.0 mg total for the beginning to test the waters.

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                      @bobs
                      The label only says 15 mg. I have not received an answer from the company that I asked to explain the percentage of each peptide. Any help would be appreciated. I bought from Northline

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                        @bobs
                        The label only says 15 mg. I have not received an answer from the company that I asked to explain the percentage of each peptide. Any help would be appreciated. I bought from Northline

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                        @lindysides did they have a COA on their website?

                        Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                          @bobs
                          The label only says 15 mg. I have not received an answer from the company that I asked to explain the percentage of each peptide. Any help would be appreciated. I bought from Northline

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                          @lindysides if their "COA" is not just for decoration purposes, it looks like 12 + 3 proportion.

                          4d21c696-a383-419c-bcc3-f5790f7c6837-image.jpeg

                          0.2-0.3 mg of Ipamorelin is all you need, so 1 - 1.5 mg per injection should be your working range.

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                            @lindysides if their "COA" is not just for decoration purposes, it looks like 12 + 3 proportion.

                            4d21c696-a383-419c-bcc3-f5790f7c6837-image.jpeg

                            0.2-0.3 mg of Ipamorelin is all you need, so 1 - 1.5 mg per injection should be your working range.

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                            @bobs
                            Finally responded with 10 Tesamorelin and 5 Ipamorelin I have not reconstituted it yet

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                              @bobs
                              Finally responded with 10 Tesamorelin and 5 Ipamorelin I have not reconstituted it yet

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                              @lindysides it doesn't matter for reconstitution, you may use 3 ml of BAC water so that 15 mg / 3 ml will be 1.5 mg per 0.3 ml or 30 units. You will use 30 units if you want 1.0mg Tesa + 0.5 Ipa. If you want to start with less, use 20 units for 1.0 mg total (which will be 0.75 mg + 0.25 mg).

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                                @lindysides it doesn't matter for reconstitution, you may use 3 ml of BAC water so that 15 mg / 3 ml will be 1.5 mg per 0.3 ml or 30 units. You will use 30 units if you want 1.0mg Tesa + 0.5 Ipa. If you want to start with less, use 20 units for 1.0 mg total (which will be 0.75 mg + 0.25 mg).

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                                @bobs Thanks so much !

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                                  I recently purchased a kit of NAD+. 5 of the vials do not have any vacuum. Is it ok to use these or should I trash them? Not sure what to do - if someone with more knowledge about this could offer some advice would be appreciated, thanks.

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