Peptide Critic Community

@JtCjEfF

In retrospect, I am not sure that the Ipa's and Tesa's and CJ's etc. really did much of anything for me. The first time I did HGH I remember thinking "OH, That's what that other stuff was supposed to do" Seems a lot cleaner, and I haven't seen any side effects.

@Commander
Tracy at QSC has the best HGH I have tried so far. great selection of sizes and lots of testing. Most vials have healthy overfill. The only mainstream vendor that I found that carries it is Penguin.

@TheHazmatGuy
I agree with your view. My Testosterone has always been out of normal range on the high side.
My doctor still wrote me a prescription for TRT because we reasoned that normal for me is more like 1200-1500. That is normal for me. We are all different and what works for some might not work for others.
I'm 68 and know a lot of guys around my age that are on TRT. A lot of them say they don't notice much of a difference? If that were me, I would take probably take more. Seems like more people are under treated rather than over treated. Numbers are great guides for helping you figure out stuff, but for me, I am looking more for a certain feeling of wellbeing.
Testosterone, HGH and Peptides make sense to me as a first choice for improving my overall health. Replacing or enhancing with things my body already produces makes me more comfortable than trusting chemical compounds from big pharma.
I understand the concern with TRT for younger people, but I agree that for the majority of people, coming off TRT is very doable if necessary.

@CMEffie17 @Randy
I have 30 mg vials of cerebrolysin that you reconstitute from powder. I also have a kit of it from the greys that I have not gotten into yet. Just started a 1mg per day protocol.
Penguin peptides have the 30 mg vial, and they also have vials of Dihexa that I am going to run soon. This is the first source of Dihexa in an injectable form I have seen. I probably won't start it until I finish this round of cerebrolysin. Anyone try it yet?

I contacted the company and they have 3rd party testing for HGH going on now should be available in 3 days. I will post when I receive it.

@CMEffie17
I started with IPA/TESA and the other GH peptides and did various combos like that until I stumbled onto HGH a few months ago. I think it make sense to go slow and keep trying until you find what works for you. I still use other GH Peps stacked with the HGH to help keep my dose down. I think you're on the right track.

@atlas01
I do 5mg GHKCU to 2mg KVP or lower and no sting at all.

@vpeptides
Exactly!!!
I have never seen HGH much above 97

@Hammertime65
Did you notice any effects from the TRT after injections? a little boost or uplifting feeling.
What dose are you on?
You get used to the IM injections after a few. I use the 23 gauge 1 " 3ml syringes usually, but some people like the U100 1/2" in the shoulder. I have trouble getting shorter needles into muscle.
I'm interested to see if TRT or HGH has the better impact for you.

@Abepeppers747
Peak Labs seems to get good if not great reviews, and I have never seen purity at 99.9% on HGH before. It's usually 97 or so. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with them?

@CMEffie17
I have to be careful with the dosages of HGH and hormone related peptides as they can counter act with insulin and will decrease insulin sensitivity. Keeping insulin doses to a minimum is not a recommended strategy for most diabetics. I stay on a healthy lo carb diet and am only require 20 total units of insulin daily. This is a very low dose, but it's necessary to have tight controls if I want to experiment with peptides and avoid interactions. I work with an endocrinologist and monitor blood work often. I do experiment with many things, but not recklessly. The start low and titrate up as indicated seems like a good way to go. Finding a sweet spot has taken me a long time, I hope I stay in the zone for a while.
But I think the short story is, if you want to try HGH and need it, it's worth it. If you recover quickly and feel good and have energy, maybe you don't need it. It seems like with peptides and such, if you don't need them, they won't do much.
I am 68 and know that age takes a toll, but these peptides can replace a lot of our functions that decline with age injury, disease or whatever. A year ago, I felt pretty beat up, and now it gets better every day. You still have to work at it but having the ability to work out and recover is huge. I'm a huge fan of rats and their behaviors' LOL

@Neil-McCauley
I was thinking the same thing. My levels were way above the 600-900 range before I started. While initially it felt helpful, I think the HGH hits way harder, especially when combined with the IPA/TESA combo. I am able to use small doses of all 3 twice daily and the results are immediate and they are out of my system quickly. The TRT is much more difficult to work with because it works so slowly. I feel like the drive and workout capacity/recovery that I was seeking with TRT is being achieved HGH.
To answer your question, I have tried most all of the GH related peptides and while many things help, HGH seems to be in a different league. I cycle all the usual things as well SS31 Mots c Pinealon , epithalin etc. and I am always doing some kind of BCP stack to help with inflammation and recovery.
I think a lot of people may get better benefits from HGH than TRT providing your levels are not too low.
I always forget to mention that I have been taking peptides for 48 years (T1D LOL)
The last couple of years I have been testing all kinds of things to help repair the damage that occurs with being diabetic. It has been a very interesting. Most things are helpful but there are a few that don't seem to do anything.
I really wish I could get DSIP to work for me, good sleep is huge.
When you take insulin, it adds an extra dimension to the protocol, but it's worth it.
I am rambling here, are you contemplating HGH?

Agreed,
There are a lot more reasons to keep them separate rather than mix them together whether they get degraded or not when mixed together.

@Commander
I think I am finally getting HGH and dosing figured out a little. I split my dose AM and PM with a dosage of 1IU or a little over per day. What I am experiencing, is what I have been after for the past 2 years when I started the peptide journey. My Drive and overall physical wellbeing are back, and it is literally like rolling the clock back about 20 years.
The various peptides I cycle have been very helpful, but I think I underestimated the importance of getting the hormones optimized. About 4 months ago I started TRT. My TRT levels were high (930 and 1032 on the tests I took) but my doctor finally let me try it anyway. That helped quite a bit, but when I added the HGH it all clicked finally. I think there is a strong possibility that the HGH may be biggest help. I appreciate everyone's posts about this. Good Stuff

@Snake-Pepskin
Interesting. I hadn't heard of the pill form. I probably wouldn't use because I like injections, my wife on the other hand is queasy about injections. Heard any feedback on the pill form?

@Stevepep
I like KVP a lot. Ive been going between KVP and Cartalax for the 3rd leg of Various BCP related stacks, and KVP is a clear winner.
Out of curiosity what dosing is effective for you.

@Eleanor
I agree with just using Hospira. It's the one constant that I don't want to change.

@ResearchCat
I have been using 5mg per day for about 6 months now and I like it a lot.
Increased blood flow and pumps when working out. The plumping of the nether regions calms down significantly after the first week or so. I generally do not like to take medications like this, but this one has been good with no side effects.

@iMemphis18
I currently have HGH loaded in a pen, and it works fine.

@WisGal64
I haven't had problems with the product or quality so far. You should be fine. I think they may have more profit built into their formula than advertised, but I don't know that to be a fact.