Protocol Opinions Needed - Bio Regulators

[Shaqdiesel]

I really want to see where this goes. The bioregulators interest me. How was the cost on those? Do you trust your source? Good COAs?

[vpeps]

Generally speaking, bioregulator dosages should reflect the sizes of the glands or organ they target (there are exceptions certainly). So, some guesswork inspired from the literature for starting doses (not a recommendation, but how would I start): Prostamax 0.2mg, Testagen 1 mg, Vesilut 1 mg. Vesugen is the most prominent bioregulator of this stack with multiple benefits (Testagen is 2nd), so the minimum dose is 0.5mg but even 2mg is a good reference. Even 20 days is too short. 2-3 months is a good duration. Every 2 weeks evaluation of the conditions, and possibly increasing the dose. The problem is you won't know which is effective here, or what combination, so you may increase them altogether. Or use them sequentially, which takes a lot more time.

[vpeps]

I also share an opinion that this company's bioregulators are of the best quality, no surprises, no strange side-effects as with some others. Expensive, but just wait a week or two for another 50% sale and use additional 15-25% off code and it's good.

[bfuller]

@Shaqdiesel These are from Bio Longevity Labs - I would say they have one of the most if not best reputation for Bio Regulators ,but the are also one of the more expensive/ over priced suppliers if you do not take advantage of their frequent slaes. I got these for 50% plus a stackable 15% discount code "JayC" so they were a bit more reasonable. And yes they do have COA's.

[bfuller]

After reading many protocols I am going to go with Jay Campbells recomended effective real world (his words not mine) protocols. I was able to find his protocols in his blog. And since this is his product line, if I use his recomendations and it doesn't work he can't blame the researcher for not following an effective protocol (if I decide to review it)

Vesilute – 2.5mg EOD – 16 days = 10 mg/week
Testagen – 2mg daily - 10 days
Vesugen – 1mg daily - 20 days
Prostamax – 500mcg daily - 40days

Baslines for PSA and testosterone are complete, I start tomorrow!

Stay Tuned.

[EXTROPIAN]

@bfuller Now that's a serious stack! Keep us posted. I am right behind you.

[vpeps]

You've inspired me, I'm gonna run Vesugen - 1mg with Pinealon - 2mg for now. Chonluten probably will join.

[kenhnsy]

I take these every 6 months after hearing Dr. Bill Lawrence say this is one supplier of three he is using for his duplication of the Russian studies. He did not say who the other two are. So I have confidence they are not counterfeit. I believe this particular brand is under license from Khavinson's company to use their filtering process. The "complexes" are the best value. No, I have not done any telemere age tests. Happy researching.

https://vita-stream.com/vita-defender-natural-peptide-bioregulator-complex-60-capsules/
https://vita-stream.com/vita-man-natural-peptide-bioregulator-complex-60-capsules

[vpeps]

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[bfuller]

@EXTROPIAN @vpeptides

[kenhnsy]

@vpeptides said:

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SH! Now you tell me!

[ogsteve]

@bfuller khavinson recommended a max Vesugen dose of 500mcg

[bfuller]

@ogsteve I’m split dosing 500mcg 2x per day but there are protocols for high blood pressure up to 4.5mg per day split dosing is recommended for anything over 1mg. So no single dose is more than 1mg.

[vpeps]

@ogsteve Professor Khavinson has proposed that a 500 mcg injection may be the most effective dose to activate the full stem cell benefits of Vesugen. But a higher dose is not a concern, and may be beneficial for other purposes.

[bfuller]

@vpeptides what other purposes? I'm interested to know.

[vpeps]

@bfuller For instance, it has geroprotective properties, improves SIRT1-PGC1a activity, enhances blood vessel health, and combats neurological diseases.

[bfuller]

@vpeptides 10-4 copy that

So you think I should just hit 1 mg/ a day in a single bolus or split does 2 500mcg's per day?

[ogsteve]

@bfuller and how’s it going? Have you noticed anything? I’m only about 10 days into 500mcg/day. I’m certainly open to a bigger dose on the next vial tho.

[ogsteve]

@vpeptides You are correct. I should it have used the word “max”

[vpeps]

@bfuller my guess you will be trading some increased effectiveness for convenience. It's your call, I don't want to do it twice a day because of inconvenience along. In studies patients used it orally 2-3 times a day, but the difference between 0 and 1 signal is profoundly more important than between 1 and 2 signals from a bioregulator.