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  • vpepsV Offline
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    You've inspired me, I'm gonna run Vesugen - 1mg with Pinealon - 2mg for now. Chonluten probably will join.

    attentiion is all you need

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      I take these every 6 months after hearing Dr. Bill Lawrence say this is one supplier of three he is using for his duplication of the Russian studies. He did not say who the other two are. So I have confidence they are not counterfeit. I believe this particular brand is under license from Khavinson's company to use their filtering process. The "complexes" are the best value. No, I have not done any telemere age tests. Happy researching.

      https://vita-stream.com/vita-defender-natural-peptide-bioregulator-complex-60-capsules/
      https://vita-stream.com/vita-man-natural-peptide-bioregulator-complex-60-capsules

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      • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

        I take these every 6 months after hearing Dr. Bill Lawrence say this is one supplier of three he is using for his duplication of the Russian studies. He did not say who the other two are. So I have confidence they are not counterfeit. I believe this particular brand is under license from Khavinson's company to use their filtering process. The "complexes" are the best value. No, I have not done any telemere age tests. Happy researching.

        https://vita-stream.com/vita-defender-natural-peptide-bioregulator-complex-60-capsules/
        https://vita-stream.com/vita-man-natural-peptide-bioregulator-complex-60-capsules

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        #10

        @kenhnsy code SUMMER25 to have 25% off, today is the last day.

        attentiion is all you need

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        • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

          @bfuller Now that's a serious stack! Keep us posted. I am right behind you.

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          @EXTROPIAN @vpeptides 1734193471620.gif

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          • vpepsV vpeps

            @kenhnsy code SUMMER25 to have 25% off, today is the last day.

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            @vpeptides said:

            @kenhnsy code SUMMER25 to have 25% off, today is the last day.

            SH! Now you tell me!

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            • bfullerB bfuller

              After reading many protocols I am going to go with Jay Campbells recomended effective real world (his words not mine) protocols. I was able to find his protocols in his blog. And since this is his product line, if I use his recomendations and it doesn't work he can't blame the researcher for not following an effective protocol (if I decide to review it)

              Vesilute โ€“ 2.5mg EOD โ€“ 16 days = 10 mg/week
              Testagen โ€“ 2mg daily - 10 days
              Vesugen โ€“ 1mg daily - 20 days
              Prostamax โ€“ 500mcg daily - 40days

              Baslines for PSA and testosterone are complete, I start tomorrow!

              Stay Tuned.

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              ogsteve
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              @bfuller khavinson recommended a max Vesugen dose of 500mcg

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              • O ogsteve

                @bfuller khavinson recommended a max Vesugen dose of 500mcg

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                @ogsteve Iโ€™m split dosing 500mcg 2x per day but there are protocols for high blood pressure up to 4.5mg per day split dosing is recommended for anything over 1mg. So no single dose is more than 1mg.

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                • O ogsteve

                  @bfuller khavinson recommended a max Vesugen dose of 500mcg

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                  @ogsteve Professor Khavinson has proposed that a 500 mcg injection may be the most effective dose to activate the full stem cell benefits of Vesugen. But a higher dose is not a concern, and may be beneficial for other purposes.

                  attentiion is all you need

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                  • vpepsV vpeps

                    @ogsteve Professor Khavinson has proposed that a 500 mcg injection may be the most effective dose to activate the full stem cell benefits of Vesugen. But a higher dose is not a concern, and may be beneficial for other purposes.

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                    @vpeptides what other purposes? I'm interested to know.

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                    • bfullerB bfuller

                      @vpeptides what other purposes? I'm interested to know.

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                      @bfuller For instance, it has geroprotective properties, improves SIRT1-PGC1a activity, enhances blood vessel health, and combats neurological diseases.

                      attentiion is all you need

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                      • vpepsV vpeps

                        @bfuller For instance, it has geroprotective properties, improves SIRT1-PGC1a activity, enhances blood vessel health, and combats neurological diseases.

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                        @vpeptides 10-4 copy that

                        So you think I should just hit 1 mg/ a day in a single bolus or split does 2 500mcg's per day?

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                        • bfullerB bfuller

                          @ogsteve Iโ€™m split dosing 500mcg 2x per day but there are protocols for high blood pressure up to 4.5mg per day split dosing is recommended for anything over 1mg. So no single dose is more than 1mg.

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                          #19

                          @bfuller and howโ€™s it going? Have you noticed anything? Iโ€™m only about 10 days into 500mcg/day. Iโ€™m certainly open to a bigger dose on the next vial tho.

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                          • vpepsV vpeps

                            @ogsteve Professor Khavinson has proposed that a 500 mcg injection may be the most effective dose to activate the full stem cell benefits of Vesugen. But a higher dose is not a concern, and may be beneficial for other purposes.

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                            @vpeptides You are correct. I should it have used the word โ€œmaxโ€

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                            • bfullerB bfuller

                              @vpeptides 10-4 copy that

                              So you think I should just hit 1 mg/ a day in a single bolus or split does 2 500mcg's per day?

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                              #21

                              @bfuller my guess you will be trading some increased effectiveness for convenience. It's your call, I don't want to do it twice a day because of inconvenience along. In studies patients used it orally 2-3 times a day, but the difference between 0 and 1 signal is profoundly more important than between 1 and 2 signals from a bioregulator.

                              attentiion is all you need

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                              • bfullerB bfuller

                                @vpeptides 10-4 copy that

                                So you think I should just hit 1 mg/ a day in a single bolus or split does 2 500mcg's per day?

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                                @bfuller here is for your reference https://peptideproduct.eu/upload/ebook/brochure_clinical_researches_citomaxes_citogens_english.pdf

                                attentiion is all you need

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                                • vpepsV vpeps

                                  @bfuller here is for your reference https://peptideproduct.eu/upload/ebook/brochure_clinical_researches_citomaxes_citogens_english.pdf

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                                  @vpeptides cool thanks!

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                                  • O ogsteve

                                    @bfuller and howโ€™s it going? Have you noticed anything? Iโ€™m only about 10 days into 500mcg/day. Iโ€™m certainly open to a bigger dose on the next vial tho.

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                                    bfuller
                                    wrote last edited by bfuller
                                    #24

                                    @ogsteve I'm only on day 2, I'll keep you posted on subjective markers as I notince them , I will be doing another hormonal draw in a couple weeks after I'm done to see if there is any change in my blood markers.

                                    I'm going to go with the 1 mg to save 20 needles.

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                                    • bfullerB bfuller

                                      Hello my fellow Rodentia Muridae Rattus Norvegicus

                                      I'm ready to regenerate my rats mid section! Any ideas for a protocol are welcome for my next stack:

                                      Prostomax, Testagen, Vesilute and Vesugen.

                                      I am considering:

                                      10 day @ 2mg each
                                      15 day @ 1.5mg each
                                      20 day run @1mg each

                                      I'm open to feedback or recomendations

                                      BLL BIO REgs).jpg

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                                      judge
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                                      @bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
                                      prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
                                      testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
                                      vesugen: Lys-Glu-Asp

                                      I buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it ๐Ÿ™‚ and my rat takes 3ml a day

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                                        @bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
                                        prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
                                        testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
                                        vesugen: Lys-Glu-Asp

                                        I buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it ๐Ÿ™‚ and my rat takes 3ml a day

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                                        @judge Then it seems like you are taking Vesugen-Pro ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        But, seriously, it doesn't work this way. The half-life of these molecules is short, and you can't control its degradation in a way that Lys-Glu-Asp will appear in blood in a large enough concentration to have an effect.

                                        attentiion is all you need

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                                        • J judge

                                          @bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
                                          prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
                                          testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
                                          vesugen: Lys-Glu-Asp

                                          I buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it ๐Ÿ™‚ and my rat takes 3ml a day

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                                          @judge to second what Vpeptides says it doesn't work that way, the chain formation is specific to the tissue cell of whatever the peptide is targeting and directly binds to the DNA for the epiginetic control of "turning on/off" specific genes.

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