Protocol Opinions Needed - Bio Regulators
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@ogsteve Professor Khavinson has proposed that a 500 mcg injection may be the most effective dose to activate the full stem cell benefits of Vesugen. But a higher dose is not a concern, and may be beneficial for other purposes.
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@bfuller For instance, it has geroprotective properties, improves SIRT1-PGC1a activity, enhances blood vessel health, and combats neurological diseases.
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@ogsteve I’m split dosing 500mcg 2x per day but there are protocols for high blood pressure up to 4.5mg per day split dosing is recommended for anything over 1mg. So no single dose is more than 1mg.
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@ogsteve Professor Khavinson has proposed that a 500 mcg injection may be the most effective dose to activate the full stem cell benefits of Vesugen. But a higher dose is not a concern, and may be beneficial for other purposes.
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@vpeptides 10-4 copy that
So you think I should just hit 1 mg/ a day in a single bolus or split does 2 500mcg's per day?
@bfuller my guess you will be trading some increased effectiveness for convenience. It's your call, I don't want to do it twice a day because of inconvenience along. In studies patients used it orally 2-3 times a day, but the difference between 0 and 1 signal is profoundly more important than between 1 and 2 signals from a bioregulator.
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@vpeptides 10-4 copy that
So you think I should just hit 1 mg/ a day in a single bolus or split does 2 500mcg's per day?
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@bfuller here is for your reference https://peptideproduct.eu/upload/ebook/brochure_clinical_researches_citomaxes_citogens_english.pdf
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@bfuller and how’s it going? Have you noticed anything? I’m only about 10 days into 500mcg/day. I’m certainly open to a bigger dose on the next vial tho.
@ogsteve I'm only on day 2, I'll keep you posted on subjective markers as I notince them , I will be doing another hormonal draw in a couple weeks after I'm done to see if there is any change in my blood markers.
I'm going to go with the 1 mg to save 20 needles.
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Hello my fellow Rodentia Muridae Rattus Norvegicus
I'm ready to regenerate my rats mid section! Any ideas for a protocol are welcome for my next stack:
Prostomax, Testagen, Vesilute and Vesugen.
I am considering:
10 day @ 2mg each
15 day @ 1.5mg each
20 day run @1mg eachI'm open to feedback or recomendations
@bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
vesugen: Lys-Glu-AspI buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it
and my rat takes 3ml a day -
@bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
vesugen: Lys-Glu-AspI buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it
and my rat takes 3ml a day@judge Then it seems like you are taking Vesugen-Pro
But, seriously, it doesn't work this way. The half-life of these molecules is short, and you can't control its degradation in a way that Lys-Glu-Asp will appear in blood in a large enough concentration to have an effect.
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@bfuller Hi bfuller, not sure if you have done this, but compare the ingredients of those peptides to each other. Some are the same. So you might be duplicating your purchases
prostamax: Lys-Glu-Asp-Pro (KEDP)
testagen: Lys-Glu-Asp-Gly (KEDG)
vesugen: Lys-Glu-AspI buy prostamax because i get vesugen free with it
and my rat takes 3ml a day -
After reading many protocols I am going to go with Jay Campbells recomended effective real world (his words not mine) protocols. I was able to find his protocols in his blog. And since this is his product line, if I use his recomendations and it doesn't work he can't blame the researcher for not following an effective protocol (if I decide to review it)
Vesilute – 2.5mg EOD – 16 days = 10 mg/week
Testagen – 2mg daily - 10 days
Vesugen – 1mg daily - 20 days
Prostamax – 500mcg daily - 40daysBaslines for PSA and testosterone are complete, I start tomorrow!
Stay Tuned.
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Yeah, can we get an update please?
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