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    diegoc
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    Im no expert however did my research…

    I got the 10mg bottle and added 1ml of Bac.

    I did 5mg for 20 days…

    It was great and the next quarter I will do 10mg for 20days, maybe overkill but its amazing for sleep and longevity.

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      diegoc
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      I did it at night before sleep

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        diegoc
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        This is a relatively safe peptide and I wouldn’t be worried of the higher dose protocol.

        I wouldn’t do 1mg unless you do a longer protocol but i dont know if there’s any benefits

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          ResearchCat
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          Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I have read that 5mg is typically the minimum dose amount. I should probably just buy 5 more vials and do a 5x20. Been stocking up, so I’m spread a bit thin atm.

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            PeptideEd
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            @researchcat I can report that 2mg per day has been dramatically noticeable for me (in a very positive way) in terms of improved sleep. That said the only downside I've ever heard anyone report about the higher dosages is that it made them a little drowsy during the following day.

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              Randy
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              There is no right answer. After all its research! Ive done 20 a day for 15 days. It stung like a bee but I plan to live forever.

              Milage may vary but i would never start on the high end on my first go researching.

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                diegoc
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                I agree… First round/cycle i did 5mg for 20days. Next cycle i will up the dose and check DNA telemeres to see what happens as well

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                  I agree… First round/cycle i did 5mg for 20days. Next cycle i will up the dose and check DNA telemeres to see what happens as well

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                  PeptidePete
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                  @diegoc said in Epitalon Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:

                  I agree… First round/cycle i did 5mg for 20days. Next cycle i will up the dose and check DNA telemeres to see what happens as well

                  Telomere check is also my research plan 👍 Already have established telomere baseline, so longer on next test (in approx 6 months) = the Epitalon worked.

                  To add another data point, I happened to do 10mg daily for 20 days. As noted, no one knows. I felt fine and feel fine.

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                    we just parterned with a testing company thats dirt cheap https://peptidecritic.com/lab-tests/ulta-bloodwork

                    Im on the road so i have to check what theyre calling the telomere length test but you absolutely should do it before and after on your rat.

                    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                      we just parterned with a testing company thats dirt cheap https://peptidecritic.com/lab-tests/ulta-bloodwork

                      Im on the road so i have to check what theyre calling the telomere length test but you absolutely should do it before and after on your rat.

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                      ResearchCat
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                      @Randy I checked Ulta and the other lab providers and couldn’t find it. I did see some companies that do just this testing for 250-300. FlowFish, PSC, Spectra, a couple others.

                      I have a similar reconstitution question to what I asked in the SS-31 thread: for reconstituting 10mg vials where you are injecting basically the entire vial, is only using .200 ml or a little more ok rather than using 1ml+? I am just not sure if you would get the peptide to dissolve completely and/or there would be irritation or absorption issues due to the concentration.

                      Thanks.

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                        PeptidePete
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                        Just got my TruDiagnostic Advanced TruAge report results yesterday, includes telomeres. This is one month after Epithalon course, so better results to come in later this year, in theory:

                        telo.jpg

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                          @Randy I checked Ulta and the other lab providers and couldn’t find it. I did see some companies that do just this testing for 250-300. FlowFish, PSC, Spectra, a couple others.

                          I have a similar reconstitution question to what I asked in the SS-31 thread: for reconstituting 10mg vials where you are injecting basically the entire vial, is only using .200 ml or a little more ok rather than using 1ml+? I am just not sure if you would get the peptide to dissolve completely and/or there would be irritation or absorption issues due to the concentration.

                          Thanks.

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                          Randy
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                          @ResearchCat yeah the whole thing. .5ml because its a stingy one

                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                            we just parterned with a testing company thats dirt cheap https://peptidecritic.com/lab-tests/ulta-bloodwork

                            Im on the road so i have to check what theyre calling the telomere length test but you absolutely should do it before and after on your rat.

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                            diegoc
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                            @Randy hey Jeff, i do alot of BW, once a month.

                            The typical stuff when checking test, Hemocratic, ferritin, IGF

                            Whats the best option to choose in your vendor.

                            Thanks

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                              @Randy hey Jeff, i do alot of BW, once a month.

                              The typical stuff when checking test, Hemocratic, ferritin, IGF

                              Whats the best option to choose in your vendor.

                              Thanks

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                              Randy
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                              @diegoc i just pick and choose what my veterinarian tells me to depending on what im researching. I wont pretend to be some expert on reading bloodwork or panels. There are much better experts on the subject.

                              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                ResearchCat
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                                Tbh, I am suffering analysis paralysis choosing between vendors. I reckon I will pick one, but I like that function supposedly tells you what it means and can refer you.

                                Sadly, the two YouTube personalities I’ve reached out to who have related businesses in this space are much better at making videos than running a business.

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                                  Tbh, I am suffering analysis paralysis choosing between vendors. I reckon I will pick one, but I like that function supposedly tells you what it means and can refer you.

                                  Sadly, the two YouTube personalities I’ve reached out to who have related businesses in this space are much better at making videos than running a business.

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                                  diegoc
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                                  @ResearchCat hey buddy, listen that is common in us men, but just do it.

                                  However document your goals.

                                  Do your research on Frequency and Dosing

                                  As for the vendors, man there are alot of good ones that are pretty trust worthy.

                                  Mile High are good and add the peptide critic discount

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                                    PeptidePreston
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                                    @randy @researchcat @diegoc I've stacked Epi & Pinealon for 20 days previously as a suggestion but didn't really know much about it. A few months prior I researched a 30 day cycle of Pinealon. Pinealon was fantastic for improved sleep, energy, mood, etc.

                                    I've seen suggestions only to research Epi or Pinealon maybe 2-3 times a year. I know they can be used together, but what if you wanted to research and get a benefit from them separately? If someone has any information or can point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. My rat has central sleep apnea and gets less than 3 hrs of real sleep each night, even with being 33, 6ft, 180 lbs, active & healthy.

                                    Ps. I've researched DSIP and the only thing it really did was more intense dreams.

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                                      ResearchCat
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                                      My epitalon research was specifically focused on longevity, so I can’t speak to sleep changes except to say that I have not noticed changes due to this or any other peptide research. My sleep is generally better, but I have also stopped drinking alcohol (mostly) and am going to bed earlier and cutting off digital garbage beforehand, making it hard to attribute.

                                      Most of the longevity focused research in humans indicates running a 10-20 day cycle once or twice a year, not constant maintenance. Sorry I can’t be much help for your interest.

                                      Edit: If I am being honest, quitting a p2w mobile game and associated reduced stress is probably the biggest contributor to my increased sleep quality. (It also frees up lots of money for research. 😉 )

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                                        ...have you tried pinealon?

                                        I discovered that one a few years back. Prior to that i needed a handful of melatonin gummies or Ambien to sleep. I haven't needed it since.

                                        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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