Nexaph CJC/Ipa Test Results - A Lot Lower Than Janoshik’s
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I agree with you. I was thinking more on the lines of he should be made aware and give you a discount for the underfills. I'm guessing this happens more than we think. Someone else had sent theirs out for testing and came back with different results as well, but it was an overfill, which impacts. Especially with peps like VIP being so strong and powerful
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I like to think this is a bit more objective because it’s lab testing, but it does occur to me that the entire peptide business and testing regime reminds me of the ratings agencies circa 2008.
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I've always assumed there was variation in vials. Most tests I see posted on vendor sites using have 2-3 vial testing show the variation, although not always this much. I think we would see this much more if we were to, for example, send a batch of 10-20 vials to be tested. Honestly, my concerns are 1: the active chemical is what is is supposed to be. 2. Sterility and endotoxins. 3. Purity. Granted they all matter, but folks taking content and purity COA's as a stamp that the stuff is safe to inject is a terrible trend IMO.
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The SNP Telegram group just booted me for posting those results.
I am starting to realize that too many people in these Telegram groups and boards have a vested interest not to have clear transparent information out there. I mean arguing with me about a test report is crazy.
It is simple, we always say test your peptides, but why would we do that if we simply didn’t believe the results that we got or didn’t share them. It is more like- only tell us if it is favorable to us, otherwise keep your mouth shut or we will ban you or try to discredit you.
The peptide space unfortunately is not an unbias place and too many people have a steak in the game…Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes
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The SNP Telegram group just booted me for posting those results.
I am starting to realize that too many people in these Telegram groups and boards have a vested interest not to have clear transparent information out there. I mean arguing with me about a test report is crazy.
It is simple, we always say test your peptides, but why would we do that if we simply didn’t believe the results that we got or didn’t share them. It is more like- only tell us if it is favorable to us, otherwise keep your mouth shut or we will ban you or try to discredit you.
The peptide space unfortunately is not an unbias place and too many people have a steak in the game…@Commander unfortunately theres now too much money at stake in it. I know a guy running a small shop. and if his numbers are a tenth of what they are up to being a bigger company. a couple bad tests on the forum can screw with hundreds of thousands of dollars very quickly.
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@commander Damn, it’s on fire today. I don’t go there every day but it is a rolling dumpster fire.
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@Commander unfortunately theres now too much money at stake in it. I know a guy running a small shop. and if his numbers are a tenth of what they are up to being a bigger company. a couple bad tests on the forum can screw with hundreds of thousands of dollars very quickly.
@quicksilver80
I completely agree. But people take posting those results as bad. Those results aren’t bad at all. The bad thing is they differ very much from Janoshik’s.
My worry is why do we have two different test results? Is Freedom off, is Janoshik off or is this just one odd ball vial. We really should get to the bottom of this if we are going to trust any test results at all, otherwise we are flying blind.
What if Freedom’s test results are bad? If thst is the case we wouldn’t want people to keep sending in and paying for tests that aren’t valid would we?
These results only reassure me that I am getting good product from Nexaph. I will always buy from them.
BUT a huge red flag was how quick they booted me from the SNP group for posting those test results and they were very aggressive in telling me how Janoshik is the Gold Standard in testing me and that is the entire peptide community’s opinion. How would they know what the entire peptide community thinks? Especially if they censor it…
I Inspect What I Expect, I have no bias. I share what I find good or bad. For what it is worth, I hate finding contradictory stuff. When I do, I am faced with should I share my findings and face a ton of people arguing me about them. Or keep everything I find out just for me and my friends. It actually sucks.. -
@commander Damn, it’s on fire today. I don’t go there every day but it is a rolling dumpster fire.
@ResearchCat
Yep, they are pissed I posted them. I also posted them on STG.
I am sure SNP probably deleted everything I posted…
Censorship. Lets burn some books!!! -
@quicksilver80
I completely agree. But people take posting those results as bad. Those results aren’t bad at all. The bad thing is they differ very much from Janoshik’s.
My worry is why do we have two different test results? Is Freedom off, is Janoshik off or is this just one odd ball vial. We really should get to the bottom of this if we are going to trust any test results at all, otherwise we are flying blind.
What if Freedom’s test results are bad? If thst is the case we wouldn’t want people to keep sending in and paying for tests that aren’t valid would we?
These results only reassure me that I am getting good product from Nexaph. I will always buy from them.
BUT a huge red flag was how quick they booted me from the SNP group for posting those test results and they were very aggressive in telling me how Janoshik is the Gold Standard in testing me and that is the entire peptide community’s opinion. How would they know what the entire peptide community thinks? Especially if they censor it…
I Inspect What I Expect, I have no bias. I share what I find good or bad. For what it is worth, I hate finding contradictory stuff. When I do, I am faced with should I share my findings and face a ton of people arguing me about them. Or keep everything I find out just for me and my friends. It actually sucks..@Commander could be vial to vial. could be transport to and from. could be the time it takes from point a to point b you and then to point c. different temps from where janoshik is to freedom. etc. i mean were talking about relatively unstable lypo powders here. say a .5 percent discrepancy over probably 10000 vials in a batch test isnt bad but also isnt terrible either.
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@Commander could be vial to vial. could be transport to and from. could be the time it takes from point a to point b you and then to point c. different temps from where janoshik is to freedom. etc. i mean were talking about relatively unstable lypo powders here. say a .5 percent discrepancy over probably 10000 vials in a batch test isnt bad but also isnt terrible either.
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Them booting you from the snp group should tell you all you want to know, regardless of any testing. Time to move on. Looks like STG did.
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Them booting you from the snp group should tell you all you want to know, regardless of any testing. Time to move on. Looks like STG did.
@kj4otu
I think you are right. A shame, I like Nexaph products. But their behavior in this matter is very troubling. The worse part, I didn’t ask for any money back, any credit or anything. I am not even using the CJC/Ipa, I don’t like it. I was simply asking to get to the bottom of this difference. -
What is SNP?
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@quicksilver80
It is WAY more than 5%, it is 20%. 5% isn’t bad at all, that is kind of what I was expecting, not 20%.
Again, I love Nexaph products. My concern is the testing process.@Commander oh lord. i rescind my previous comment haha.
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@randy
I didn’t know where to put this post because there is no test results Category. So please move this to wherever it belongs.I sent out a Vial of Nexaph CJC/IPA to be tested at Freedom. It tested a lot lower than what Janoshik tested it at (for mass).
I always wondered why Nexaph would send their stuff overseas to Janoshik to be tested if they are here in the USA. Plus the vendor sponsored 3rd party test results also get sent to Janoshik. That didn’t sit well with me. So I sent a vial out myself. This is a big discrepancy in mass. Where it really makes a difference is for everyone using the numbers from the batch test results to figure out their recon dosage (I go by whatever the claimed bottle MG is, not the test results also).
I know there can be some variation from test lab to test lab, but if you compare these test results, they are off by a decent %.
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@Commander How much did it cost for a test performed by Freedom?
@ricoadams
$225 -
What is SNP?
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And I just got this in Telemess… Makes me wonder wjat is going on. I am new to these boards and Telemess, but just being new doesn’t mean, don’t share what you found - or does it?
@Commander STG is a cabal of sorts. Cain didnt want to play ball with them. Thats the short version. They keep plenty of vendors on their spreadsheet that have done egregious stuff. Good spot to browse for info either way
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@randy
I didn’t know where to put this post because there is no test results Category. So please move this to wherever it belongs.I sent out a Vial of Nexaph CJC/IPA to be tested at Freedom. It tested a lot lower than what Janoshik tested it at (for mass).
I always wondered why Nexaph would send their stuff overseas to Janoshik to be tested if they are here in the USA. Plus the vendor sponsored 3rd party test results also get sent to Janoshik. That didn’t sit well with me. So I sent a vial out myself. This is a big discrepancy in mass. Where it really makes a difference is for everyone using the numbers from the batch test results to figure out their recon dosage (I go by whatever the claimed bottle MG is, not the test results also).
I know there can be some variation from test lab to test lab, but if you compare these test results, they are off by a decent %.
@Commander Jano has been around the longest and some people just prefer it for that reason. Jano is notorious for showing higher numbers than other labs. I've consistently seen +/-10% differences between some labs. I've also seen jano test the same batch a week apart and have a 10% difference with 3 bottles each for both tests.
If nexaph or any other vendor was sending samples to another lab the results would likely vary.
you are doing the right thing here by not blindly trusting vendor and vendor sponsored testing.
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