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Nexaph CJC/Ipa Test Results - A Lot Lower Than Janoshik’s

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    I like to think this is a bit more objective because it’s lab testing, but it does occur to me that the entire peptide business and testing regime reminds me of the ratings agencies circa 2008.

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      I've always assumed there was variation in vials. Most tests I see posted on vendor sites using have 2-3 vial testing show the variation, although not always this much. I think we would see this much more if we were to, for example, send a batch of 10-20 vials to be tested. Honestly, my concerns are 1: the active chemical is what is is supposed to be. 2. Sterility and endotoxins. 3. Purity. Granted they all matter, but folks taking content and purity COA's as a stamp that the stuff is safe to inject is a terrible trend IMO.

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        The SNP Telegram group just booted me for posting those results.
        I am starting to realize that too many people in these Telegram groups and boards have a vested interest not to have clear transparent information out there. I mean arguing with me about a test report is crazy.
        It is simple, we always say test your peptides, but why would we do that if we simply didn’t believe the results that we got or didn’t share them. It is more like- only tell us if it is favorable to us, otherwise keep your mouth shut or we will ban you or try to discredit you.
        The peptide space unfortunately is not an unbias place and too many people have a steak in the game…

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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          The SNP Telegram group just booted me for posting those results.
          I am starting to realize that too many people in these Telegram groups and boards have a vested interest not to have clear transparent information out there. I mean arguing with me about a test report is crazy.
          It is simple, we always say test your peptides, but why would we do that if we simply didn’t believe the results that we got or didn’t share them. It is more like- only tell us if it is favorable to us, otherwise keep your mouth shut or we will ban you or try to discredit you.
          The peptide space unfortunately is not an unbias place and too many people have a steak in the game…

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          @Commander unfortunately theres now too much money at stake in it. I know a guy running a small shop. and if his numbers are a tenth of what they are up to being a bigger company. a couple bad tests on the forum can screw with hundreds of thousands of dollars very quickly.

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            @commander Damn, it’s on fire today. I don’t go there every day but it is a rolling dumpster fire.

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              @Commander unfortunately theres now too much money at stake in it. I know a guy running a small shop. and if his numbers are a tenth of what they are up to being a bigger company. a couple bad tests on the forum can screw with hundreds of thousands of dollars very quickly.

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              @quicksilver80
              I completely agree. But people take posting those results as bad. Those results aren’t bad at all. The bad thing is they differ very much from Janoshik’s.
              My worry is why do we have two different test results? Is Freedom off, is Janoshik off or is this just one odd ball vial. We really should get to the bottom of this if we are going to trust any test results at all, otherwise we are flying blind.
              What if Freedom’s test results are bad? If thst is the case we wouldn’t want people to keep sending in and paying for tests that aren’t valid would we?
              These results only reassure me that I am getting good product from Nexaph. I will always buy from them.
              BUT a huge red flag was how quick they booted me from the SNP group for posting those test results and they were very aggressive in telling me how Janoshik is the Gold Standard in testing me and that is the entire peptide community’s opinion. How would they know what the entire peptide community thinks? Especially if they censor it…
              I Inspect What I Expect, I have no bias. I share what I find good or bad. For what it is worth, I hate finding contradictory stuff. When I do, I am faced with should I share my findings and face a ton of people arguing me about them. Or keep everything I find out just for me and my friends. It actually sucks..

              Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                @commander Damn, it’s on fire today. I don’t go there every day but it is a rolling dumpster fire.

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                @ResearchCat
                Yep, they are pissed I posted them. I also posted them on STG.
                I am sure SNP probably deleted everything I posted…
                Censorship. Lets burn some books!!!

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                  @quicksilver80
                  I completely agree. But people take posting those results as bad. Those results aren’t bad at all. The bad thing is they differ very much from Janoshik’s.
                  My worry is why do we have two different test results? Is Freedom off, is Janoshik off or is this just one odd ball vial. We really should get to the bottom of this if we are going to trust any test results at all, otherwise we are flying blind.
                  What if Freedom’s test results are bad? If thst is the case we wouldn’t want people to keep sending in and paying for tests that aren’t valid would we?
                  These results only reassure me that I am getting good product from Nexaph. I will always buy from them.
                  BUT a huge red flag was how quick they booted me from the SNP group for posting those test results and they were very aggressive in telling me how Janoshik is the Gold Standard in testing me and that is the entire peptide community’s opinion. How would they know what the entire peptide community thinks? Especially if they censor it…
                  I Inspect What I Expect, I have no bias. I share what I find good or bad. For what it is worth, I hate finding contradictory stuff. When I do, I am faced with should I share my findings and face a ton of people arguing me about them. Or keep everything I find out just for me and my friends. It actually sucks..

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                  @Commander could be vial to vial. could be transport to and from. could be the time it takes from point a to point b you and then to point c. different temps from where janoshik is to freedom. etc. i mean were talking about relatively unstable lypo powders here. say a .5 percent discrepancy over probably 10000 vials in a batch test isnt bad but also isnt terrible either.

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                    @Commander could be vial to vial. could be transport to and from. could be the time it takes from point a to point b you and then to point c. different temps from where janoshik is to freedom. etc. i mean were talking about relatively unstable lypo powders here. say a .5 percent discrepancy over probably 10000 vials in a batch test isnt bad but also isnt terrible either.

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                    @quicksilver80
                    It is WAY more than 5%, it is 20%. 5% isn’t bad at all, that is kind of what I was expecting, not 20%.
                    Again, I love Nexaph products. My concern is the testing process.

                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                      And I just got this in Telemess… Makes me wonder wjat is going on. I am new to these boards and Telemess, but just being new doesn’t mean, don’t share what you found - or does it?
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                      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                        Them booting you from the snp group should tell you all you want to know, regardless of any testing. Time to move on. Looks like STG did.

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                          Them booting you from the snp group should tell you all you want to know, regardless of any testing. Time to move on. Looks like STG did.

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                          @kj4otu
                          I think you are right. A shame, I like Nexaph products. But their behavior in this matter is very troubling. The worse part, I didn’t ask for any money back, any credit or anything. I am not even using the CJC/Ipa, I don’t like it. I was simply asking to get to the bottom of this difference.

                          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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