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NAD+ Reconstitution advice needed

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  • J JtCjEfF

    OK, good to know that the buffered helps with the sting that much. I have a kit of 1000mg buffered coming from Crush, so I will plan to recon that at a normal amount for dose/units then. Are y'all using normal bac water, or the sodium chloride version?

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    @JtCjEfF I always use more BAC than needed, regardless of what the pep is. I use Randy's recon tool and will get it to as close to a number ending in '5' as possible; generally between 20 and 60 units (for syringe). If you're using a pin, IDK what the numbers are.

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      @JtCjEfF I always use more BAC than needed, regardless of what the pep is. I use Randy's recon tool and will get it to as close to a number ending in '5' as possible; generally between 20 and 60 units (for syringe). If you're using a pin, IDK what the numbers are.

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      @Eleanor ok thanks, Ill give that "a shot". 🥁🥁

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      • J JtCjEfF

        OK, good to know that the buffered helps with the sting that much. I have a kit of 1000mg buffered coming from Crush, so I will plan to recon that at a normal amount for dose/units then. Are y'all using normal bac water, or the sodium chloride version?

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        @JtCjEfF Regular BAC water, just dilute your vial. I've done 2ml and 3ml for 500mg vials. I think I like 3ml better.

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          @JtCjEfF Regular BAC water, just dilute your vial. I've done 2ml and 3ml for 500mg vials. I think I like 3ml better.

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          @gym.rat said:

          @JtCjEfF Regular BAC water, just dilute your vial. I've done 2ml and 3ml for 500mg vials. I think I like 3ml better.

          I'll BAC as many as 5ml because of the higher unit, the syringe pulls/pushes better, IMO.

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            Is that why I see a lot of places give the option for 500mg and 1000mg? Is the 500 supposed to sting less? And what size vials do 500mg normally come in?

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            • gym.ratG gym.rat

              @martinmarin My in home female lab rat started on unbuffered and I moved her over to buffered. Pretty big difference in pain. Plus the buffered is a bit stronger and it lasts longer. NAD+ is one of the peps that degrades rapidly, so once you recon it you better get using it.

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              @gym.rat Yes i might just blow through them. Up the dose tongauge the difference in this case. They are 100mg vials. But I am in my sweet spot though. Well my ph test strips are in my amazon cart now. Man this is getting expensive. lol

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                Is that why I see a lot of places give the option for 500mg and 1000mg? Is the 500 supposed to sting less? And what size vials do 500mg normally come in?

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                @Nuncles said:

                Is that why I see a lot of places give the option for 500mg and 1000mg? Is the 500 supposed to sting less? And what size vials do 500mg normally come in?

                I'm not sure, Nuncles; it's just the amount in the vial; the amount of BAC is still a personal choice. In 500mg I use 5ml BAC, which makes it a 30 unit pull in syringe for 30mg dose. In 1000mg I use up to 10ml for the same 30 dose/units. I like my numbers to line up as the same; saves confusion.

                Whether it's BUFFERED is what matters as far as tolerability (sting).

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                • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

                  @gym.rat Yes i might just blow through them. Up the dose tongauge the difference in this case. They are 100mg vials. But I am in my sweet spot though. Well my ph test strips are in my amazon cart now. Man this is getting expensive. lol

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                  @martinmarin said:

                  Man this is getting expensive. lol

                  YA THINK?! LOL! There are true professional pep hogs here... I'm an amateur.

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                    @gym.rat said:

                    @JtCjEfF Regular BAC water, just dilute your vial. I've done 2ml and 3ml for 500mg vials. I think I like 3ml better.

                    I'll BAC as many as 5ml because of the higher unit, the syringe pulls/pushes better, IMO.

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                    BTW, use an amber vial with NAD+ if you have one. Light protection and makes it last longer.

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                      BTW, use an amber vial with NAD+ if you have one. Light protection and makes it last longer.

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                      @Eleanor no no no i draw the line on the amber vials. Ill just wrap them with aluminum foil before someone come up that aluminum has a negative charge and it will give my peps a bad attitude. lol

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                        How bad is this sting? is it worse than GHK? I have buffered, just reconned it last night and psyching myself up or out not sure lol

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                          In my opinion, not that bad. If it starts to sting, I slow down the injection. I've read that you don't want to use an auto injector for it. Let me know how it compares to GHK-CU.

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                            How bad is this sting? is it worse than GHK? I have buffered, just reconned it last night and psyching myself up or out not sure lol

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                            @WisGal64 I have yet to figure out how to not get a red blotch from GHK-CU. It doesn't hurt or itch, but it stays for about a day.

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                              @nuncles good to know, I'll report back

                              @stevepep I get those too, some weeks are better than others. Hubs on the other hand with the exception of that one time he used inner thigh(I still crack up about it), he has had no issues. Interesting how ppl react differently. Someone mentioned Muchcaine, a topical lido based cream, I may invest in some.

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